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Refresher Question Wrong
Number 15 on the IAABO exam seems to give the wrong correct answer (Manybe I am wrong, but I don't think so)
The question is as follows: Substitute B-6 enters the court while the ballis in control of team A and while the clock is running. The officials are inaware that team B has 6 players in the game. B-6 returns to the bench after which team A commits a violation/ The scorer now informs the official that team B had 6 players on the court. The Official rules no Technical foul can be assessed. Is the official correct. I said yes, the answer says no. It sights Rule 10, Section 1 Art 6: Have more than 5 team members participating simultaneously. BUT, right under that it states Penalty: Penalized IF discovered while being violated. So how could you have a T in the scenario above. |
Is this a correctable error? "Failure to award a merited free throw"
Has the time to correct the error passed? "In order to correct any of the officials' errors listed in Article 1, such error must be recognized by an official no later than during the first dead ball after the clock has properly started." |
PIAA Ref, you are correct that the official answer is wrong. My association received an email that was forwarded from the IAABO "home office", saying that #15 was in error and that the actual answer should be "Yes".
There were also a couple other answers that were changed from the answer key. |
I posted question 15 earlier...FYI
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incorrect answer key on refresher
has anybody else dicovered any other answer(s) incorrect on the exam? I recently learned the key has 2 or 3 incorrect answers.
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IAABO 2006 Refresher Exam Answer Mistakes
According to our board secretary/treasurer and our board interpreter, there are three mistakes on the IAABO 2006 Refresher Exam Answer And Reference Sheet. This information came out of a board Refresher Exam study session:
Question #15: Correct answer should be YES. Question #49: Correct answer should be NO. Question #80: Correct answer should be NO. |
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Personally, I don't like the answer to #13 or #33.
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Tony,
Please post the questions! |
13. While the official passes team A’s bench, someone from the bench utters uncomplimentary language. The official is not able to designate which bench personnel uttered the words. Official charges a technical foul to the head coach. Is the official correct?
33. A–1 after receiving the ball, places the ball on the floor and simultaneously releases it with both hands. A–1 then picks up the ball and dribbles toward the side line. Official rules this an illegal dribble. Is the official correct? 75. After the ball becomes live to begin the first quarter the official notices that A–1 is wearing an illegal jersey. A–1 plays the whole first quarter and enters the court to start the second quarter. Official assesses A–1 with a technical foul. Is the official correct? |
Well, I don't know the official IAABO ruling for any of these questions, but here are my answers:
13. Yes 33. Yes 75. No |
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We have a case play with a player who recovers the ball while laying on the floor that may be useful in this case. (The case was quote here: http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...45&postcount=2) If that player on the floor sits the ball down, stands, then picks up the ball, it is considered traveling. To me, that says that sitting the ball on the floor is not a dribble....otherwise it would have been a legal play. Now to this case... How is it different? The only differnce is the position of the player, not the action with the ball. So, is sitting the ball on the floor a dribbler or not?? If not, then the official is wrong. If so, then teh case play I referenced is providing a contratdictory interpretation of stilling the ball on the floor. |
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Once the player is playing, it is deemed legal. Reading into it you could argue an illegal number might have been the reason for its illegality, but the question does not say it was an illegal number. |
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How does that ruling fit with case 4.45.5.B? In it A1 gains control of the ball on the floor and it says... "It is also traveling if A1 puts the ball on the floor, then rises and is the first to touch the ball."Since it is not possible to travel during a dribble, the act of putting the ball on the floor must not be a dribble. |
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In the dribble situation, there is no such difficulty. The normal dribbling rules are simply enforced. Do so prevents the player from gaining any unfair advantage. Think of what the consequences would be if setting the ball down on the floor and releasing it wasn't considered a dribble. A player who had already used his dribble and was trapped, could put the ball down between his legs, shield it from other players with his body, and then move to a more advantageous location or position and pick the ball back up. That would make a farce of the traveling and dribbling restrictions. |
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If the number must be changed to match the scorebook (or vice versa), that's a different issue, penalty, timeframe, and doesn't make the jersey illegal. Thus, it doesn't apply to the question posed. |
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SIX IN GAME 10.1.6 SITUATION: With Team A leading 51 to 50, a held ball is called. A6 properly reports and enters the game. Time is then called by Team A. The clock shows two seconds remaining in the game. After play is resumed by a throw-in, the officials: (a) recognize that A has six players competing, but cannot get the clock stopped; or (b) do not notice Team A has six players on the court. Following the throw-in, time expires. Team B now reports to the officials that Team A had six players on the court. RULING: In (a), since one of the officials had knowledge that Team A had six players participating simultaneously and this was detected prior to time expiring, a technical foul is assessed against Team A. In (b), since it was not recognized by either official, but was called to their attention after time had expired, it is too late to assess any penalty. |
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For a shirt to be considered illegal something else besides the number must be wrong with it. (i.e. too many colors, illegal memorial patch, visible manufacturer's logo, etc.) If a player were to have a number that contained a 6, 7, 8, or 9 the player would be penalized for wearing an illegal number, but not also for wearing an illegal shirt. Notice the "or" in the language of 10-3-2. To me that means that they are seperate infractions. . . . Wear an illegal number or an illegal shirt or illegal pants/skirt. PENALTY: (Art. 2) Each violation is penalized one time if discovered prior to ball becoming live for each designated starter and each substitute who enters. I do not believe that it is the intent of the rule to penalize the kid twice for having one item wrong on his shirt. If that were the case, then no one could ever play with an illegal number because that team member would receive two player technical fouls and be disqualified! :eek: |
Furthermore, triple-digit numbers are also illegal even if they don't contain a numeral above 5.
For example, 333 is illegal. |
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That's different from an INCORRECT number, as in 3-2 and penalized under 10-1-2. That's my only point. |
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I agree with that point. One is a Team T and the other is a Player T. |
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#33, sitting the ball on the floor is NOT a dribble. |
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Can I get a Lah me from JR? :) |
Have you actually read those rules I sent to you?
A dribble is ball movement caused by a player in control who bats (intentionally strikes the ball with the hand(s)) or pushes the ball to the floor once or several times.
"...bats or pushes to..." It doesn't say sitting or placing the ball on the floor. And to your other point about the foot, it doesn't say that the ball has to hit the floor to be a dribble, does it? Just another ****ed up interp by the IAABO, and by NevadaRef. :rolleyes: |
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Setting the ball down on the floor isn't pushing it to the floor? What is it? Lowering it to the floor? As for the foot play, the rule does say "to the floor." To me that means that it actually gets there. I believe that there is solid rules support for my understanding. Quote:
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