no airborne shooter

[Junker]

Ok college guys, I'm working a college men's JV game tonight and I see that one of the differences between HS and Men's is that Men's has no airborne shooter. Can you give me some examples of how this changes the way some plays should be called? I'm just having a hard time envisioning the ramifications at the moment. Thanks.

[Scrapper1]

A1 jumps, releases shot, charges into B1. Count the basket, B1 shoots 1-and-1 if in the bonus.

[Junker]

Ok, that makes sense. This is where you get a PC foul that doesn't wipe off the basket. If the PC foul happens before the shot, you do not count the basket, but if the contact happens after the shot, you do count the basket, correct? Thanks, I should have been able to figure that out.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Junker

This is where you get a PC foul that doesn't wipe off the basket.

It's not a player control foul at all because the shooter has already released the ball, so no more player control. At that point, the contact becomes a pushing foul with no team control, just like a rebounding foul.

[Junker]

Got it, I'm doing 3 things at once here. Thanks for answering my multi-tasking moronic questions.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Junker

Ok college guys, I'm working a college men's JV game tonight and I see that one of the differences between HS and Men's is that Men's has no airborne shooter. Can you give me some examples of how this changes the way some plays should be called? I'm just having a hard time envisioning the ramifications at the moment. Thanks.

Be careful here, there IS an airborne shooter "rule" (definition) under ncaa-m.

What there is in the ncaa rules is an extension of the PC foul definition to include both a player with the ball (airborne or not) and an airborne shooter for women, just as in fed rules. For ncaa-m a PC foul only occurs when a player has control of the ball.

[Junker]

Thanks Dan. I was going off the rules differences stated in the NFHS rulesbook. I did look at the NCAA rulesbook online last season, but since then I have misplaced the web address. You don't happen to have it do you?

[Raymond]

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf

[Junker]

Thanks, I looked around but didn't find it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf

ITEM: Airborne shooter

NFHS: In air after release of try or tap

NCAA: Men—No rule
Women—Same as NFHS

[Nevadaref]

As Dan said there is an airborne shooter rule in NCAA mens. It is just different. The definition of a player control foul does NOT include the airborne shooter. However, if the shooter is fouled before he returns to the floor after releasing the ball on a try for goal, he is still in the act of shooting and is awarded FTs.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

ITEM: Airborne shooter

NFHS: In air after release of try or tap

NCAA: Men—No rule
Women—Same as NFHS

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