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ChuckElias Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:24pm

A Fond Farewell
 
After talking about this with some friends from the board and some other officials, I've decided to stop contributing to the forum. As Mick alluded to in the baseball thread, I was hired by a couple of D1 conferences (although I didn't recieve any assignments from one of them). Although it's not very likely, I don't want any of my comments to be misconstrued and then passed on to an assignor.

Fear not, I will be back to start the annual baseball thread. And I'll keep reading. But I won't be posting very much anymore. If for some unknown reason somebody wants my input on something, you could still email me through the forum.

It's been great, guys and gals. Everybody have a great season.

26 Year Gap Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:34pm

Will we see you in AmEast? And when you get home after a game, will one of your first tasks be to walk the dog? I'll pm you from time to time. Thanks for your helpful input.

JRutledge Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:44pm

Wish you the best.
 
Good luck to you. You and I do not always see eye to eye, but I wish you the best and this is probably a good decision. All that they look for is a little thing and you never know how a comment will be taken. Hope you get the opportunity you are looking for and let us know if you will be on TV. At least we can say we have known you in some way. ;)

Peace

Texas Aggie Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:14pm

I hate to see those with potentially good input not post. I'm sure I've had a disagreement with most anyone that's posted regularly on here as long as I have been on (~2 years or so), probably including you, so this isn't a personal issue. But, I'd recommend you reregister under an assumed name and continue to post. However, if you choose not to, good luck in your endeavors.

tjones1 Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:40am

Take care Chuck, and good luck.

rainmaker Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie
But, I'd recommend you reregister under an assumed name and continue to post.

This one gets my vote!

Raymond Tue Nov 07, 2006 01:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
After talking about this with some friends from the board and some other officials, I've decided to stop contributing to the forum. As Mick alluded to in the baseball thread, I was hired by a couple of D1 conferences (although I didn't recieve any assignments from one of them). Although it's not very likely, I don't want any of my comments to be misconstrued and then passed on to an assignor.

Fear not, I will be back to start the annual baseball thread. And I'll keep reading. But I won't be posting very much anymore. If for some unknown reason somebody wants my input on something, you could still email me through the forum.

It's been great, guys and gals. Everybody have a great season.

I understand your decision. I ran into a fellow in camp this summer who used to post on this site. He said someone had printed out all his posts and passed it along to one of his assignors.

Nevadaref Tue Nov 07, 2006 04:56am

I can't help but think that the remaining members on the forum are coming out on the short end of this. I have learned a great deal from this poster and am truly sorry to see him go. With him gone I don't think that this place will quite measure up to how it was with him around.

I would certainly like to see him continue to post under a ficticious name. While I certainly respect his choice, I have to say that I believe that it is sad that a D1 caliber official must refrain from sharing his knowledge with others in this avocation for fear of it somehow costing him his place in a conference or game assignments.

I've been told that one of the most satisfying aspects of making it to the top is that ability to help others.

Truly what should an assignor care if one of his officials is helping others with rules interpretations, court positioning, and teamwork principles? Isn't that a good thing?

Bold emphasis to give you a parting Chuckle! :)

I wish you the best.

drinkeii Tue Nov 07, 2006 06:26am

Good luck!

cmathews Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:20am

good luck Chuck
 
Chuck,
Good luck and congratulations. I will miss your insight on the board, but I do completely understand your decision.

Junker Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:30am

Great for you Chuck! You can always show back up under an assumed name. Thanks for all the comments over the past few years.

M&M Guy Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:52pm

Chuck - you will be missed. We kind of looked upon you as one of the keepers of the asylum, along with the moderators. It appears as though there will be one less voice of reason to help hold back the insane masses...

If you do start to post under an assumed name, can I make a couple of non-descript suggestions?

How about SquirrelNuts1?
Or, WonHungLow?
Maybe ShortAndSweet?

(See what I mean? It's starting already...)

Jurassic Referee Tue Nov 07, 2006 01:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

If you do start to post under an assumed name, can I make a couple of non-descript suggestions?

How about SquirrelNuts1?
Or, WonHungLow?
Maybe ShortAndSweet?

Is <b>JMO</b> taken?

mick Tue Nov 07, 2006 01:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
It's been great, guys and gals. Everybody have a great season.

Good **** ..., Big Dawg ! :)

deecee Tue Nov 07, 2006 01:50pm

to bad to see you go

hard to imagine that we are in a profession where expression ones opinion and openly discussing what is going on is frowned upon. what are we protecting when we are concerned when what we think and feel can come back and bite us in the a$$? just my thinking but if this is the petty state of officiating then quite frankly i am happy where i am.

however chuck it is a sad thing that you cannot share your experience with us and i wish you the best.

"Doubt whom you will, but never doubt yourself."

-- Christian Nestell Bovee

Smitty Tue Nov 07, 2006 02:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee
hard to imagine that we are in a profession where expression ones opinion and openly discussing what is going on is frowned upon. what are we protecting when we are concerned when what we think and feel can come back and bite us in the a$$? just my thinking but if this is the petty state of officiating then quite frankly i am happy where i am.

Why is it so odd to think that a D1 official needs to be held to a certain standard of behavior? Officials are expected to be unbiased. Assignors need to be certain that an official is not going to let their opinions be construed in any way as to give any participant an unfair advantage. We all know this, and so it shouldn't be considered "hard to imagine" or "petty" in any way. It is the foundation of what we do. That's why we are not allowed to talk to the press. We are protecting the basic ethics of what we have chosen to do. If you prefer to do something where your opinion matters, you should choose another vocation.

refhoops Tue Nov 07, 2006 02:32pm

Unfortunately, our forum has lost one of our voices of reason. As a relative newcomer to this disfunctional family I have come to respect you comments and views. I know in my small world it has help me become a better official. I wish you nothing but success and looking forward to seeing you on Big Monday!

Back In The Saddle Tue Nov 07, 2006 02:35pm

Farewell and thank you
 
Wow. I cannot conceive of the forum with Chuck Elias.

I appreciate all you have contributed over these many years. I hope you feel that your contributions have been valued and that your participation has returned to you manifold in the form of personal grown, currently culminating in this opportunity.

I'd be happy to send you my login and you can continue to post as BITS. The advantages to this scheme are two-fold. First, the intelligence of my posts would improve dramatically. Second, if you ever did say anything outrageous or career-wrecking, everybody already expects it of me anyway! :D

You will be missed.

PGCougar Tue Nov 07, 2006 02:44pm

Wow. I guess it's good bye to the Chuck we know and love on this board. I can understand the reasons, but it makes me sad anyway. I imagine it would have been fun to hear about your new experiences first-hand.

Hope you choose to come here under an alias and still dole out that great advice. That ought to create some fun as people try to guess if it's you or not.

Best of luck!

Ref_ Fred Tue Nov 07, 2006 02:54pm

Chuck it was nice knowing you for the short time, You have been comforting to me when others weren't. Thank you.. But BUT go under an ALIAS instead Elias.. LOL

Good Luck have a great season. let's us know when you will be on the tube.. Who is going to take the grammar/spelling king job..

Raymond Tue Nov 07, 2006 03:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by refhoops
Unfortunately, our forum has lost one of our voices of reason. As a relative newcomer to this dysfunctional family I have come to respect your comments and views. I know in my small world it has helped me become a better official. I wish you nothing but success and I am looking forward to seeing you on Big Monday!

Does this help fill a void???

refnrev Tue Nov 07, 2006 03:23pm

I certainly hate to see one of the best voices on this forum leave us.

rainmaker Sat Jul 21, 2007 02:21pm

Chuck SAID he got hired to work some D1, and although I've never actually seen him ref, allusions on this board make me wonder how possible that is. And then I saw this news item:

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/0...el-spies-.html

and I knew that whole D1 story was just a fabrication. Chuck was going undercover to serve his country. One of our own has joined the fight, and is now paying the ultimate price.

Do you suppose they'll behead him on camera for the benefit of other squirrels worldwide who might be tempted to work against the Iranian interest? Oh, Chuck, Chuck, how patriotic you are! How we admire you now, when it's too late for you to know our true feelings!!

I will take a moment of silence thinking of all your heroism and bravery. I only hope when my time comes my death will serve a purpose half so worthy.

PS. Whoever's posting in the baseball off topic thread as Chuck, can stop now that his cover is blown. And don't worry, we all know it wasn't you that out-ed him!

Love2ref4Ever Sun Jul 22, 2007 07:23pm

A Fond Farewell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
After talking about this with some friends from the board and some other officials, I've decided to stop contributing to the forum. As Mick alluded to in the baseball thread, I was hired by a couple of D1 conferences (although I didn't recieve any assignments from one of them). Although it's not very likely, I don't want any of my comments to be misconstrued and then passed on to an assignor.

Fear not, I will be back to start the annual baseball thread. And I'll keep reading. But I won't be posting very much anymore. If for some unknown reason somebody wants my input on something, you could still email me through the forum.

It's been great, guys and gals. Everybody have a great season.

Hey Chuck, you don't have to leave on my account! Wonder if Chuck knows that there are spies in these rooms? Hey Chuck, give me a minute to throw some water on a few of these refs, let's see which one is wearing a wire1:D

zebraman Sun Jul 22, 2007 07:31pm

Congrats on the D1 contracts Chuck!

Let us know if we can pick up one of your games on the tube.


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