NFHS Part I Question
 

Headbands and sweatbands must be the same dominant color of the team jersey or white.

True or False.

R3-5-3a should give you a clue as to what the answer is.

BTW...this is the only answer I missed on the Part I test (Open Book)...I think I read too much into it. ;)

You probably thought of 3-5-3(d) also, and got penalized for knowing too much about the rules.:)

How come the FED didn't put any color/size restrictions on rubber/cloth hair control bands like they did on headbands/sweatbands?

Not that I really care.....

This rule may put an end to sweatbands and headbands. I was at a jamboree for 4 hours on Saturday. I saw 16 teams in that time playing on two different gym floors. I also saw exactly ONE player with sweatbands on. Coaches in my area seem to be taking the approach that they just aren't going to fool with them.

I think it's true, isn't it? Is there more to the question that I don't get?

Good question...maybe next year...but, I don't really care either since I only officiate boys basketball. (I haven't seen too many hair bands on the boys side) :)


3-5-3(a)
"Headbands and sweatbands must be white or similar color to the torso of the jersey and must be the same color for each item and all participants."

I thought similar and same meant two different things.
The rule says similar...therefore, IMO...if a team had royal blue jerseys then a light blue headband/sweatband should be OK. The test question made it sound, to me, like the headbands and sweatbands have to be exactly the SAME color as the jersey.

Same and similar are the not the same (pardon the pun). If they are to be the same color, than if the jersey is white, the headbans and sweatbans are to be white. If they are to be similar, then if the jerseys are white, the sweatbans can be off white or any color similar to white. Just my two cents.

I think it means that all the sweatbands and headbands that a team wears have to be the SAME color, and that color can be either white or a color similar to the jersey.

That was what our interpreter said Sunday nite at our rules meeting - Navy and another blue color, as long as the color was similar (some form of blue, not red or green) was ok.

He also said we're not supposed to penalize it - basically try to catch it before we have to penalize it, and have the player fix it. The situation says if you get 5 players starting with illegal attire, they would each get a T - even I would hesitate (as picky and by the book as I am) with giving out 5 T's to start a game - I guess I would wonder what I was doing before when I didn't notice these things. Now, if they were ok before the game in warmups, put them on, and came out to do the jump ball..... hmm - maybe.

(You had some misunderstandings in your post. I struck them and added the red.)

I truly hope that your interpreter stressed to you that there is no penalty for illegal items other than shirts (the team jersey) and shorts (the bottoms of the team uniform). Do NOT issue a T for a player wearing jewelry, illegal sweatbands, headbands, hair clips, undershirts, or undershorts. You simply do not permit this player to participate while wearing the item. The only penalty is that the kid cannot enter the game, if you caught it prior to the entry, or he/she must correct the equipment immediately or leave the game to do so, if you failed to notice it beforehand and the kid became a player.
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David, you <b>can't</b> penalize it. Ever! You can penalize "uniform" violations with a technical foul, but headbands and sweatbands are <b>not</b> part of the player "uniform". You tell the player to either take off the illegal headband/sweatband, or leave the floor until they do so.

You must have misunderstood your rules interpreter. I can't believe that any interpreter could get a rule as basic as that one wrong.

The case book plays to support my above post.
 

3.4 SITUATION A: Team A is wearing shirts which have: (a) a visible manufacturer's logo; (b) the school name below the numbers with the lettering starting in the front and continuing around the side to the back; or (c) the school name above the number and the mascot name below the number. RULING: The shirts in (a) and (b) are illegal and the penalty is a technical foul. The infraction must be discovered before the ball becomes live when a starter or substitute becomes a player. Two identifying names on the front of the shirt are legal in (c).

3.5 SITUATION B: The officials are on the court prior to the game observing the team warm-ups. One official notices that a member of Team A is wearing a decorative necklace. RULING: The official should inform the team member to remove the jewelry immediately. Upon compliance, the team member may continue to warm up with his or her teammates and may start the game without penalty.

3.5.6 SITUATION A: Substitute A6 is beckoned and enters the court to replace A1. A6 is wearing: (a) compression shorts below the game pants which extend below the knees; (b) cut-off jeans extending below the game pants; or (c) jewelry. RULING: The items in (a), (b) and (c) are illegal and A6 will not be allowed to participate while wearing the items. No penalty is involved. A6 simply cannot participate until the illegal items are removed. (3-5-7)

Nevada, the easiest way to remember is:
- the technical fouls are covered under R3-4
- the "take 'em off or sit downs- your choice" are covered under R3-5.

Headbands and wristbands are listed under R3-5.

JR,
I'm not sure why you addressed that to me instead of David, but what you wrote makes sense. I never grouped it by article before. I have always just remembered that the only items for which a player could receive a T were the jersey and shorts. Everything else is take it off or don't play.

Ok - that makes more sense now. Thanks for the clarification. Ilike the grouping method of separating them.

I have to say - I like the fact that in soccer, for the last 2-3 years, they changed the uniform policy. If you are inappropriately attired (jewelry, untucked shirt, etc), we would not allow the player to enter the field as a sub. However, if they are discovered on the field (as often happens with girls and earrings), they are asked to leave, and NO SUB is permitted until the next sub opportunity. They play shorthanded for however long it takes for a sub to be allowed. Since subs are only allowed on their own throw-ins, or the other team's throw-ins if they have a sub themselves, this often produces a significant penalty for forgotten earrings, etc. The first time you do this, the team makes sure that they didn't "forget" anything else.

Of course, this isn't soccer. But it was getting old constantly having people sub out with no penalty at all because they couldn't follow the simple rules to remove jewelry before entering the field. Do you think basketball will ever get some kind of penalty like this? I don't see them asking a team to play short, but maybe some other kind of penalty short of a technical?

I addressed it to you because I was simply reinforcing your previous post, is all.

I honestly don't find that. Once a coach has one of his players either sent out or not allowed in, they usually take care of their bidness in my experience. I have never run into a "constantly" situation that I can remember.

What you wrote in green is correct. However what appears in red is not accurate.

From the 2006-07 rules book:
"There shall be no replacement until the next opportunity to substitute. However, the removed player may re-enter during a dead ball after reporting to an official who shall be satisfied the player's equipment and uniform is in order."

In other words the same player may come back in on the very next stoppage (any foul, if the ball goes OOB, etc.), if the offending item is removed or the uniform is fixed. It seems that you may be overpenalizing.

Ok - point taken - but the player cannot return for some period of time, and the team plays short for some period of time, which reinforces that they need to come out on the field with their uniform correct and no illegal jewelry, etc... as opposed to the cases where I would have 4-5 girls I would send off at various times during a game for "forgotten" earrings, with no penalty, and just delaying the playing of the game. Now that there is some form of penalty, it has cleaned it up immensely, in my experience.

Except for this year - I have to say I had all but 3 games this season (probably 20+) where I had at least one player with forgotten earrings or jewelry of some kind that was sent off... and this was after the PIAA speech at the beginning to the captains and coaches, reminding them to check for forgotten jewelry, and often checking the teams beforehand as well. But in most cases, the first was the last in that game...

Personally, I wish that the NFHS would make wearing jewelry or other illegal equipment on the field during the game an automatic caution. That would fix it for sure.

S.O.S.

Nevada and DRinke have taken over 2 separate threads with soccer. What's next, NASCAR talk????

Whoops, make that 3 threads.

What is this "soccer" you speak of? Never seen it.:D

You lie - I know you have that Sports Illustrated cover of Brandi Chastain hanging in your room...

:D

So sorry, I'll let you get back to discussing the dominant color of a sweatband or was this thread about the distinction between the words similar and same? :rolleyes:

Who's that? I just want to know, if she's that good looking I'll have to go get a poster. I guess it could be worse, instead of talking soccer, we could be talking about wrestling and singlets.:D

What?! You really don't remember this from the Women's World Cup a few years ago?:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ain.jpg/225px-

Oh, that. I think if I'm going to spend money on a poster, I'll go looking for some women's tennis players.:)

Haha - sorry - I just compare the sports I officiate that are similar.

Understandable. We all do it.

Last year my baby brother got married up in North Jersey. We stayed at the Meadowlands Sheraton. Ms. Chastain was in the lobby one morning waiting on her limo. She's holding up pretty well.

OK, now back to our regularly scheduled programming.