Team Control Punch
 

First game tonight. I'm trail and call second foul of game. It was a team control --- holding red #10. Reported the foul and said, Team Control, punched it, siganled hold, etc. Do you always punch with the right arm or punch in the direction of the offending team? What say you other zebras?

Direction of offending team.

According to the 2006-07 NF Pre-Season Guide it does not say you have to point to a particular direction. I think the key is to give the signal. You are not technically giving a direction with the signal. The TC signal is a punch, not a point in a direction from what I have read.

Peace

I believe Rut's right for Fed. - no specific direction. In NCAA-W, they prefer you "punch" in the direction you will be going next. Iow, say you're L, you would punch straight out from your chest (towards the court). Say you're T, in the right hand front court in front of the table, as your face the floor you would punch with your left arm out to your left (towards the back court). Does that make sense? Unless they come out with a specific instruction, though, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Just make sure they see the punch, so they know it's a team control foul.

You don't have to signal the "hold," only the TC Foul. IOW, when reporting, the order would be: Color, Number, "Team Control Foul," signal with the TC Punch, designate "spot throw in," and move to administer the throw-in. I believe that is right. Correct? Thanks for any clarification.

Nope.

You're welcome. :D

I'm pretty sure that I'm sure you have to indicate the nature of the foul.

But do you have to do it both times, at the spot of the foul and when reporting to the table?

BNR,
You do with a charge so why not? How will the scorekeeper record it as TCF if you don't? RR

Rev, BNR is asking if you have to give the punch signal AND the push signal at the table. I would say no. Give the punch to let everybody know you're not shooting FTs and that's it.

From the 2005-2007 FNHS Officials Manual:

Page 36, Paragraph 230, (e)

"If a team-control foul, point in the direction of the throw-in teams basket."

I would assume the same applies to the puch.

That's not a good assumption. Those words were written and that manual was printed when the fist punch wasn't even an NFHS signal.

BTW keep the dog off the court. You don't want him pissing on your shoes! :p

Or is this an example of using Padgett's advice for a coach's shoes. :D

Why not? Didn't the PUNCH replace the Point?

You got most of that right. At the table you do color, number, state the nature of the foul.

Just realized I improperly worded my question.

Should have ask: Reporting to the table, should we do color, number,:

• Punch, Nature of Foul (visually), Point

• Punch, Point

• Nature of Foul (visually), Point

I dont think there is a need for all of that at the table. On the spot you are doing the fist, punch (saying offensive) and then spot. When you go to the table you are doing color, number then you can say offensive foul and then the infraction. Now you know me, I probably will just punch go from there at the spot!

You are supposed to signal dead ball, punch in the direction we will be going, prelim for type of foul, throw-in spot, go to table, stop, color, number, team control signal in the direction we will be going.

I don't recall if new change says puching direction, but you should punch in the direction of throwing team (hand(s)? It depend on which side of the court I'm on, I try never to come across the body. I use the hand closest to the table) At table Color, #, nature of foul and consequence.

My Assoc said give two signals
 

Give the punch, then the hold . Now at the VHSL meeting I attended the clinician gave the punch straight out in front - not in either direction. I don't remember if the clinician gave the second signal or not though.

Ohio has strayed from the Federation Mechanic on this. For all team Control fouls, we are directed to use the charge signal (hand to the back of the head)...so many officials were using it to explain to the benches that there was team control and no shots that it has become the official directive of the OHSAA.

At a clinic last week I was told that there is no other signal for the foul. So at the table to report, it should go

• team color
  number
  signal for team control foul

No other signal.