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deecee Tue Oct 10, 2006 05:39pm
running up court
 
I don't know if this was bought up before but I could not find an answer.

I was curious -- sometimes when I run up court i have my arms bent at a 90degree angle and when the game is a blowout i run up more with a 45degree bend. I know this is wrong because one should always run with 90degree angle no matter what the score is but there is no advantage/disadvantage gained.

I couldn't find any ruling from the NFHS regarding this but it appears that in NCAA-W its 90degree on a fast break but 45degree on normal transition whereas with the mens its 90degree only during inbouds after a timeout that was called before a technical was issued and 45degree all other times.

What do you do and think regarding this and I really hope the FED addresses this soon before we have a social meltdown and if you could back it up with case studies I would appreciate it. :p

Back In The Saddle Tue Oct 10, 2006 05:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee
I don't know if this was bought up before but I could not find an answer.

I was curious -- sometimes when I run up court i have my arms bent at a 90degree angle and when the game is a blowout i run up more with a 45degree bend. I know this is wrong because one should always run with 90degree angle no matter what the score is but there is no advantage/disadvantage gained.

I couldn't find any ruling from the NFHS regarding this but it appears that in NCAA-W its 90degree on a fast break but 45degree on normal transition whereas with the mens its 90degree only during inbouds after a timeout that was called before a technical was issued and 45degree all other times.

What do you do and think regarding this and I really hope the FED addresses this soon before we have a social meltdown and if you could back it up with case studies I would appreciate it. :p
As with most aspects of the game, apply advantage/disadvantage. If your assigner were to see you, would it be more to your advantage to have a 90 degree bend or a 45 degree bend? ;)

Kajun Ref N Texas Tue Oct 10, 2006 06:01pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee
I don't know if this was bought up before but I could not find an answer.

I was curious -- sometimes when I run up court i have my arms bent at a 90degree angle and when the game is a blowout i run up more with a 45degree bend. I know this is wrong because one should always run with 90degree angle no matter what the score is but there is no advantage/disadvantage gained.

I couldn't find any ruling from the NFHS regarding this but it appears that in NCAA-W its 90degree on a fast break but 45degree on normal transition whereas with the mens its 90degree only during inbouds after a timeout that was called before a technical was issued and 45degree all other times.

What do you do and think regarding this and I really hope the FED addresses this soon before we have a social meltdown and if you could back it up with case studies I would appreciate it. :p
What is the Board #6 approved method:o

BktBallRef Tue Oct 10, 2006 06:23pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee
I don't know if this was bought up before but I could not find an answer.

I was curious -- sometimes when I run up court i have my arms bent at a 90degree angle and when the game is a blowout i run up more with a 45degree bend. I know this is wrong because one should always run with 90degree angle no matter what the score is but there is no advantage/disadvantage gained.

I couldn't find any ruling from the NFHS regarding this but it appears that in NCAA-W its 90degree on a fast break but 45degree on normal transition whereas with the mens its 90degree only during inbouds after a timeout that was called before a technical was issued and 45degree all other times.

What do you do and think regarding this and I really hope the FED addresses this soon before we have a social meltdown and if you could back it up with case studies I would appreciate it. :p
WTF are you talkin' about? :eek:

mick Tue Oct 10, 2006 06:40pm
Should be pre-gamed.

26 Year Gap Tue Oct 10, 2006 07:17pm
:confused: We're supposed to watch our arms when we run? THAT wasn't in class! NoFair! No Fair!:mad:

zebraman Tue Oct 10, 2006 07:39pm
This is a regional thing. :)

Dan_ref Tue Oct 10, 2006 07:40pm
I prefer the post-game 20 oz Guinness myself, but whatever.

Jurassic Referee Tue Oct 10, 2006 07:46pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee

I was curious -- sometimes when I run up court i have my arms bent at a 90degree angle and when the game is a blowout i run up more with a 45degree bend.
I'm curious too. How do you <b>bend</b> your arm at a 90 degree angle?

Jurassic Referee Tue Oct 10, 2006 07:50pm
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
I prefer the post-game 20 oz Guinness myself, but whatever.
At what angle do you have to bend your arm in order to be able to suck that mother back? 135 degrees? 288 degrees?

deecee Tue Oct 10, 2006 09:18pm
90degree angle would be a right angle just to refresh -- that is when 2 lines intersect perpendicular at their end points.

think of madonnas cone bra -- that might not illustrate what i am trying to explain but think of it anyway...

alright -- an L forms a right angle -- weather or not it is right side up or upside down -- so make an L with your arms -- yes, yes go ahead --- umm a bit more -- there you have it. Now pump frantically like Shaq is about to run into you and you are trying to get away. Ok JR maybe I can excuse you from this excercise (sp?).

ChuckElias Tue Oct 10, 2006 09:35pm
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Originally Posted by deecee
that is when 2 lines intersect perpendicular at their end points.
Um, lines don't have end points, do they? Line segments, maybe? Rays, even.

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think of madonnas cone bra
Ooooo, very nice 20 year old reference. Very hip. Maybe it's hip to be square. :)
Oh, how I loved Huey Lewis and the News.

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weather or not it is right side up or upside down
Weather or not? I'm pretty sure there's some kind of weather. Juulie's got rain; Mick's probably getting snow soon; and we're due for our first frost any morning now.

Jeez, when does the season start?!?!?!

rainmaker Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:57pm
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Um, lines don't have end points, do they? Line segments, maybe? Rays, even.

Ooooo, very nice 20 year old reference. Very hip. Maybe it's hip to be square. :)
Oh, how I loved Huey Lewis and the News.

Weather or not? I'm pretty sure there's some kind of weather. Juulie's got rain; Mick's probably getting snow soon; and we're due for our first frost any morning now.

Jeez, when does the season start?!?!?!
Actually, this week we''ve got low 70's and sunshine. Not bad for the second week of October! Although, I'll be glad when the clouds finally set in.

But I think DeeCee needs to get into rehab quick for whatever he's smoking. It's gonna really screw up his season if he doesnt.

Camron Rust Wed Oct 11, 2006 02:09am
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee
I don't know if this was bought up before but I could not find an answer.

I was curious -- sometimes when I run up court i have my arms bent at a 90degree angle and when the game is a blowout i run up more with a 45degree bend. I know this is wrong because one should always run with 90degree angle no matter what the score is but there is no advantage/disadvantage gained.

I couldn't find any ruling from the NFHS regarding this but it appears that in NCAA-W its 90degree on a fast break but 45degree on normal transition whereas with the mens its 90degree only during inbouds after a timeout that was called before a technical was issued and 45degree all other times.

What do you do and think regarding this and I really hope the FED addresses this soon before we have a social meltdown and if you could back it up with case studies I would appreciate it. :p
Be careful, even if the FED does address it, as soon as it is no longer printed verbatim in the most recent edition of the rule book, what ever ruling the FED provides will no longer be valid. Even in absence of a retraction or superceding rule.

mick Wed Oct 11, 2006 05:46am
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Mick's probably getting snow soon; and we're due for our first frost any morning now.
YU.P.; severe weather warning.
Today through Friday.
U.P. to 24"
Winds off Lake Superior 20-30 from the NW; Gusts to 50.

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 11, 2006 05:57am
Quote:
Originally Posted by mick
YU.P.; severe weather warning.
Today through Friday.
U.P. to 24"
Winds off Lake Superior 20-30 from the NW; Gusts to 50.
Everybody U.P. there getting ready for the snow, Mick? Putting the wings on their front-end loaders so they can fly?:D

Dan_ref Wed Oct 11, 2006 06:00am
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Originally Posted by mick
YU.P.; severe weather warning.
Today through Friday.
U.P. to 24"
Winds off Lake Superior 20-30 from the NW; Gusts to 50.
Geeze, and I still haven't put down the fall lawn fertilizer yet.

What ever happened to global warming??

REFVA Wed Oct 11, 2006 06:39am
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I was curious -- sometimes when I run up court i have my arms bent at a 90degree angle and when the game is a blowout i run up more with a 45degree bend.
Ah crap and for the last six years I've been doing wrong, running up court with my finger up my A$$. Oh man no wonder they were laughing at me.

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 11, 2006 06:45am
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Geeze, and I still haven't put down the fall lawn fertilizer yet.
I thought that was Woody's job.

26 Year Gap Wed Oct 11, 2006 06:52am
No frost yet, Chuck? We've had several. As an aside, I DO try to keep the arms at a 90 degree angle when shoveling snow. My wife usually has one arm extended at a 180 degree angle with her index finger extended.

mick Wed Oct 11, 2006 07:15am
It's an El Nino year.
Small snows and warm temps.
Good for the Upper Peninsula, but unfortunately Bad for the rest of the globe. :(

ChuckElias Wed Oct 11, 2006 07:17am
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
No frost yet, Chuck?
Nope. In fact, I don't even wear a jacket yet while walking the dog in the morning. A sweatshirt's just about right.

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My wife usually has one arm extended at a 180 degree angle with her index finger extended.
Ooooo. Definite no-no. Pointing with only one finger? She should be using an open palm to indicate direction.

26 Year Gap Wed Oct 11, 2006 07:24am
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Nope. In fact, I don't even wear a jacket yet while walking the dog in the morning. A sweatshirt's just about right.

I thought you walked him late at night or is that only in March?

Ooooo. Definite no-no. Pointing with only one finger? She should be using an open palm to indicate direction.
Hey, it could be worse. She could be using a fox40.

ChuckElias Wed Oct 11, 2006 07:36am
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
I thought you walked him late at night or is that only in March?
Nope. Twice a day. Every day. Rain or shine. Or snow. Owning a dog is the worst. I can't believe I got talked into this. But hey, it's only for 10 more years. :(

mick Wed Oct 11, 2006 08:38am
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Nope. Twice a day. Every day. Rain or shine. Or snow. Owning a dog is the worst. I can't believe I got talked into this. But hey, it's only for 10 more years. :(
"But, Daddy, ... I'll take care of it !!!!"

Aw, shoot. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/wa...smiley-035.gif

rockyroad Wed Oct 11, 2006 09:20am
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Originally Posted by zebraman
This is a regional thing. :)
ROFLMAO!!! Good one, Z...

Dan_ref Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:01am
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Nope. Twice a day. Every day. Rain or shine. Or snow. Owning a dog is the worst. I can't believe I got talked into this. But hey, it's only for 10 more years. :(
Nice guy...see what you did now??

http://www.poster.net/kimberlin-keit...py-5001238.jpg

I hope he pees on your pillow!

ChuckElias Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:10am
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
I hope he pees on your pillow!
What makes you think he hasn't?

Ok, he hasn't done that. But he has peed right on my shoes. While I was wearing them. Did I mention that I hate owning a dog?

Dan_ref Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:33am
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
What makes you think he hasn't?

Ok, he hasn't done that. But he has peed right on my shoes. While I was wearing them. Did I mention that I hate owning a dog?
Your dog pee'ed on you??!!!

Oh man...you are 1 step above "potential lunch" in that dog's pack. Make sure you feed that mutt before going to sleep every night...


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