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dave30 Fri Sep 01, 2006 06:04am

Good job FIBA officials
 
I think the FIBA officials have been outstanding. They have been very consistent. They allow contact that doesn't really affect the play. They make the calls that need to be called. They are really consistent on both ends of the floor. The offensive foul calls are consistent. You don't hear fans crying "We were robbed!' like you do in NCAA and NBA games. They call the game fairly and do not become bigger than the game. Give the FIBA refs some love !!!

Jurassic Referee Fri Sep 01, 2006 06:39am

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Originally Posted by dave30
You don't hear fans crying "We were robbed!' like you do in NCAA and NBA games.

You were doing great until you hit that one. I just don't believe that for a minute.

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how good a job the officials do in any game in any sport at any level anywhere in the world. Fans are still gonna whine and moan and complain about the officiating. Without exception. If you want to become an official, you just accept that.

Dave, the officials at this year's Wold Championship could be doing the greatest job of officiating basketball in the history of the game, and the fans will still be crying a helluva lot more worse things at them than "we wuz robbed". Trust me.:)

BktBallRef Fri Sep 01, 2006 07:12am

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Originally Posted by dave30
I think the FIBA officials have been outstanding. They have been very consistent. They allow contact that doesn't really affect the play. They make the calls that need to be called. They are really consistent on both ends of the floor. The offensive foul calls are consistent. You don't hear fans crying "We were robbed!' like you do in NCAA and NBA games. They call the game fairly and do not become bigger than the game. Give the FIBA refs some love !!!

Are you on dope?

Saw a play in the USA-Germany game where a USA player rebounded the ball. The German player cam down on his back. The whistle blew, the USA player then faked and went up and laid the ball in. The L counted the basket. Give me a frickin' break.

ChuckElias Fri Sep 01, 2006 08:46am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Saw a play in the USA-Germany game. . . .

Come on, Tony. You can't judge the entire tournament's officiating by one bad continuation call. I haven't watched enough of the tournament to have an informed opinion either way; but I do know that one call doesn't make an entire staff good or bad.

mick Fri Sep 01, 2006 08:55am

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Come on, Tony. You can't judge the entire tournament's officiating by one bad continuation call. I haven't watched enough of the tournament to have an informed opinion either way; but I do know that one call doesn't make an entire staff good or bad.

What if that one call was your last call ?

BktBallRef Fri Sep 01, 2006 09:17am

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Come on, Tony. You can't judge the entire tournament's officiating by one bad continuation call. I haven't watched enough of the tournament to have an informed opinion either way; but I do know that one call doesn't make an entire staff good or bad.

Chuck, don't read so much into one reply. I simply remarked on one bad example that I saw. My "on dope" comment was in response to Dave's obvious attack on NCAA and NBA officials. I haven't made any attempt to judge the overall officiating. Get a grip, shorty.

ChuckElias Fri Sep 01, 2006 09:32am

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Originally Posted by mick
What if that one call was your last call ?

It probably still doesn't make you good or bad, although it's what everybody will remember. But for sure, it doesn't make the whole staff bad.

ChuckElias Fri Sep 01, 2006 09:33am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
I simply remarked on one bad example that I saw. My "on dope" comment was in response to Dave's obvious attack on NCAA and NBA officials.

Ok, I can accept that, but it's sure not what it sounds like. It sounds like Dave said the officiating was good. You said he was on dope and gave the reason for thinking the officiating was not good.

Sorry if I mis-read you, but that really is how it sounds.

mick Fri Sep 01, 2006 09:37am

Thermopylae
 
From Sport Center's review of missed three-point shots, it was easy to see five the Greek defenders in the paint while the attackers were elsewhere.

RonRef Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:20am

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Originally Posted by dave30
I think the FIBA officials have been outstanding. They have been very consistent. They allow contact that doesn't really affect the play. They make the calls that need to be called. They are really consistent on both ends of the floor. The offensive foul calls are consistent. You don't hear fans crying "We were robbed!' like you do in NCAA and NBA games. They call the game fairly and do not become bigger than the game. Give the FIBA refs some love !!!

Two things:

#1 Does anyone care about this team or the World Championships in the USA...NO! We care about the NCAA Tournament and some of us care about the NBA Playoffs (far less than the NCAA Tourney!)

#2 Does anyone care if the FIBA guys are doing good or if they suck...most couldn't find their way onto a Divsion III college game.

BktBallRef Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:20am

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Ok, I can accept that, but it's sure not what it sounds like. It sounds like Dave said the officiating was good. You said he was on dope and gave the reason for thinking the officiating was not good.

Sorry if I mis-read you, but that really is how it sounds.

First, I didn't say he was on dope. I asked him if he was on dope. You obviously misread that too. :)

Second, I guess you think I'm not smart enough to know ""that one call doesn't make an entire staff good or bad." :(

Sorry if I mis-read you, but that really is how it sounds. :)

ChuckElias Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:36am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Second, I guess you think I'm not smart enough to know ""that one call doesn't make an entire staff good or bad."

I do know that. That's why I said, "Come on". It sounded like an over-reaction and I was trying to talk you down from the ledge. :)

rockyroad Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:46am

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#2 Does anyone care if the FIBA guys are doing good or if they suck...most couldn't find their way onto a Divsion III college game.

Are you serious??? Those officials working at that level are excellent officials -they have done World Championships, Olympics, etc., and you think they aren't good enough to do D-III????

Hey Tony, here's the guy who is on dope!!!

RonRef Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:56am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
Are you serious??? Those officials working at that level are excellent officials -they have done World Championships, Olympics, etc., and you think they aren't good enough to do D-III????

Hey Tony, here's the guy who is on dope!!!

Yes, that is what I am saying, the whole world is far behind most of our college officials, maybe I was a little harsh on the D III thing. These are not the best officials in the world by any stretch!!!

RockyRoad, if you moved to Ireland even you could work the Worlds and the Olympics!

ChuckElias Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:07am

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most couldn't find their way onto a Divsion III college game.

Many of the FIBA-certified refs in the US are NBA or NCAA D1 refs. I know this for a fact. Maybe not all, but many.


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