This was cool
 

I just watched a WNBA game, and it was pretty cool how they had Bob Trammell one of the officials mic'd up. Now I know they do this occasionally in NBA usually with Steve Javie, Joe Crawford, or Dick Bavetta. But, they only let you hear it occasionally, you could listen Trammell the whole game, pretty much everything he said to players and coaches.

I just thought that was pretty cool, specially for guys like us, what you you think the chances of them doing this in the NBA are?

What is the WNBA?

Peace

Any interesting comments??

It's a women's Canadian league. It stands for "We've No Balls, Ay?" :p

I was flipping thru the channels and stopped when I heard him talking. I thought I'd hang out for a bit and see what happens.

That crew really kicked a continuation call and he had it right but the calling official still counted it. Otherwise, they did a great job.

Ooooooooh yeah, they blew the continuation call! I really wanted to see what he had to say bout that one, but I never heard anything. I DID hear him say two shots before it was reported by his partner, then one of the lady refs scored the bucket, so that tells me he never thought it should have counted. He had one of the double whistles on the call, and gave it up. OUCH!!!! As the game wound up, this could have cost the game, cuz with just a few seconds left, it was a two point game. Maybe the two points that were errouneously scored?:confused:

CH

CH

WNBA, where the real pro refs work!

Then why do they use perspective officials for the NBA at the WNBA first? I am sure when the guys get their check they might beg to differ. ;)

Peace

Do you have a problem with the WNBA?

You have to watch something first to have a problem with it. ;)

Peace

I will take that as a yes.

Ron, the reason I made the comments in the first place is the fact the WNBA season is damn near over and this is probably one of the first times someone even mentioned anything about that league. Guys come here all the time complain they do not watch the NBA, but we always have knock down drag out debates over some play or situation that happens in a big NBA game every year and especially during the playoffs. I would have said the same thing if someone mentioned the MLS. Some things just are not on the sports radar.

Peace

The only reason I watch the WNBA games is that I am a women's college official and I am watching the officials to see if I can pick-up something to improve my game.

I work Men's college and there is not a whole lot I can learn from an NBA game about officiating college games. The WNBA and the Women's College officials are often the same people, so you might get something out of it. For those that are working HS and Men's college game, watching WNBA games I get very little out of it.

Peace

I totally understand your view on this.

Geez, didn't mean to start an argument over how useful the WNBA is. I just thought the mic'd up deal was cool. Maybe if the NBA did this more, fans would have a better understanding of how the officials handle different situations, and may help show that they are there to improve the game, not just out to grind an axe or teach someone a lesson. Whatever happened to the cable show where Ronnie Nunn used to give rule interpretations for different plays from the week?

BTW and JMO, you can ALWAYS learn somthing from watching EVERY game, whether is, NBA, WNBA, NCAA or whatever, even if its how not to do somthing. If you say it doesn't do much for you, you're not looking.

Just my humble opinion though, they're like noses, everyone has one.;)

CH

Actually, there are quite a few of us here who enjoy the WNBA. I generally don't get annoyed with Jeff, but I'd rather this thread would be about the game yesterday, and not about Jeff's well known views. Could you just ignore this thread, please, Jeff, like you do the games on TV, and let us discuss our little petty concerns by ourselves? Please?

Thank you, Jeff. I appreciate you showing us this amount of respect and courtesy.

Regarding the continuation call, it did seem a little weird. However, I really thought the announcers over-played the situation. Geez, one bad call. They harped, and harped, and harped, and harped on it for the rest of the game. I thought Ann Meyers was the women's games worst announcer of all time, but I've now "elevated" Doris Burke, and whoever that guy was that was with her to a new record score of lousy.

There were a number of other calls that might have seemed questionable but were actually very good, including a couple of PC calls, and one block/charge that were truly great. In all, I thought the game was very well officiated, although the level of play wasn't up to my expectations at all. I don't see how they can keep saying that Connecticut is so great, if that game was any indication!

I didn't see the game but if it was a bad call at a critical point why wouldn't the announcers talk about it? It's their job to talk about the game...good bad & indifferent.

It doesn't do anything for me.

I'm not looking because I'm not interested.

Ronnie Nunn stopped because the league mandated that they stop that. That is why they got rid of ask the ref on the NBRA website, but it is back now and it just contains questions about the life and what it is like to be an NBA official. I would also go out on a limb and say that when this mandate was handed down was a little before or right at the time eroe39 (Eli Roe) stopped posting. That and to add to it that almost everybody was questioning everything he said. I believe someone even questioned him on a NBA rules application (can't remember for sure). Oh and by the way I heard he either scored or almost scored a 100 on one of the nba exams this year. He is a big rules buff and from his post he seemed to know what he was talking about, just a little.

I am sure there are, but you do not talk about it. Juulie, put some more skin on and you might actually have a sense of humor about this topic.

Peace

I think that limb would break. Eli's last post here was in May of '04. Ronnie's show was on the air after that, I'm pretty sure. That mandate might be an additional factor that would prevent his return, but I don't think that's why he decided to stop posting.

I think this is the reason he left the forum (I met him briefly at camp in summer '04). He got a pretty rough reception here, that's for sure. But not b/c of his NBA rule knowledge. It was b/c he and "tony" and Brent were perceived (by me, as well) as telling us to apply NBA philosophies and rules to NCAA and HS games.

After meeting Eli (again, very briefly), I'm truly sorry that we chased him away. I was genuinely happy for his advancement.

You did not start an argument. I made a joke and some people do not know how to take a joke unless they are making the joke themselves. Give it time and you will see someone will make a FIBA joke in the FIBA Championship thread. ;)

Also I disagree with this. If you watch the NBA, there are a lot of things when it comes to contact and violations that are not shared at the NCAA level. And if they do something totally different or have a different philosophy, you will get yourself into trouble trying to translate that to other levels. Notice how I did not even say the WNBA in that point of view? The NBA is seen as entertainment by many and not pure basketball.

Peace

Whatever.

Does anyone else feel that the announcers sort of overdid the comments on the one bad call? I also thought they dwelt entrilely too heavily on the low shot percentages of a couple of the Washington players. Surely they've got more to talk about than just how badly two particular players are doing. The fact is, Connecticut had a lousy day all the way around, and they only won by pure luck, in my opinion.

One thing I noticed is that the ref that was "mike-ed" said "Stay here" at least a couple of times. He also called everyone by their first names, players, coaches, table people. And they didn't leave it on ALL the time. There were a couple of converstaions with coaches I'd like to have heard, and couldn't.

You guys appear to be the only ones that saw the game. (Did I do that again?)

Peace

I thought about drawing a parallel situation to demonstrate how bent out of shape Jeff would get if the demographics of the parties involved were modified and someone else were making similar remarks about it....but I decided against doing so. ;)

Some of you really over-think comments made on this board. :rolleyes:

Peace

No, just pointing out how sensitive you are to one social topic while being so insensitve to another.:rolleyes:

They had Ronnie Nunn on NBA Insiders during the playoffs. When did they stop it?

As I said, you are really over-thinking my comments and it once again shows how irrelevant the WNBA is on the sporting radar. The LL World Series is bringing more topics and conversation than this thread will ever generate because it is about the WNBA. This is about a league, not social politics or social structure. If women supported, participated and showed any interest is sports this league the NCAA Women’s Tournament and WNBA might actually make money.

Peace

Once again a WNBA thread has reached a surprising number of posts and Jeff has made nearly half of them. If one were to survey all the WNBA threads over the past three years, I'm pretty sure we'd find that Jeff has made more posts in them than anybody else. Who needs women to support the WNBA when Jeff is doing such a great job of it?!? ;)

I find it interesting that most of the threads are about me and the joke I made and almost no one is talking about the games or the reason the thread was created for. Just shows how much anyone really seems to care about anything the WNBA does.

I thought the WNBA had a lot of fans? ;)

Peace

Perhaps you have more :eek:

Maybe.

Peace

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Good column, Juulie.....

Cruising the baseball board again, eh? I see you got another thread closed over there. Keep up the good work.

Actually it's a black'n'white striped thong....

Double:eek:

Take it easy kid before I have to slap you around a bit.

Yabut.......every time you get outa the backyard, the neighbors start complaining.:D