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You make the call.....
Late in the game. Team A leads by two points. 2.1 seconds left on the clock, team B is shooting the double bonus. Team B inbounds from the backcourt endline. Pass goes in to B1, who takes two dribbles and then cocks his arm back..... And gets hammered by A1!! Now, do you call two shots (before the shots) or three shots (in the act of shooting)??
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I'd have to see it, but it sounds like he was in the act of shooting to me. 3 shots. Z |
It's up to youto judge whether this was a try or a pass -- given the time left, I assume it was a try. Award three shots.
Having said that, I'd support a rule change that a "try" (or maybe just a three-point try) can only be from the front court |
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I award 3 shots. And maybe possession.
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Stones.....
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My question is, what if he had assessed an intentional or flagrant. How many FTs? Thanks |
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The three-point shot is "good" for teams that run an offense to get someone open on the outside. I don't think it was intended for "last second desperation heaves". So, I'd either make them not a try, or call it a try but it's only worth two points. Not a big deal either way, and there have been plenty of chances to change it and no rules code (that I'm aware of) has made the change, so it's not going to happen. |
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I believe the 'intent' of the 3 pt shot was not so much to reward teams for moving their game to the perimeter as it was to thrill the fannies in the seats with these types of moments. In any event I'm not so sure it's been good for the game, we've all been involved in games at many levels where the shooter clanks 3 off the rim before hitting his 2 or 3 for the night. |
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The answer is.......
My partner deemed this play a 'pass'. Player got two shots, if he hits both we go to overtime. The other partner and myself (three-person) wanted to bring him over to confer, but he said "pass" right away. Kid missed the first, made the second. Game over.
After the game, we discussed the play, and came to the conclussion that we should have given three shots on the play, for the sheer stupidity of the p[layer on team A for fouling in that situation!!! :D |
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I let him shoot the second, but u're right, second was irrelevant. Summer ball.
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why the three point shot
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You should still have gotten together and helped your partner see the error of his ways, I don't care if he said "pass" on the play. Our number one responsibility is to get the call right, sure you would have taken some major heat from the coach, but that is our job. We all have brain farts out on the court, we need be strong/good partners and help each other out when this happens. |
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Are you in the habit of questioning your partner's <b>judgement</b> calls? |
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Peace |
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Thanks for speaking on this. "Getting it right" refers more to rules than another person's judgement, IMO. How can one ref tell another what he\she saw was wrong if they are focusing on their own responsibilities on the court? If it is a call in the 'gray areas' on the court, that is one thing (basically free throw line area). Anywhere else on the court, it had better be an 'Oh My Goodness!!!!!!!!:eek: ' play in order for another partner to come and get it. Again, just my opinion. |
Had one of these 10 days ago. A non-patched guy calls OOB on the sideline from the lead. He did not see the tip out of bounds by the other team. I went to him and asked if he saw the tip? He said he hadn't and reversed his call. The coach who lost the ball asked what happened and I told him he did not see the tip. The coach replied that '2 of us did' and the play resumed.
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