How often do you see this???

ChuckElias · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Jun 13, 2006, 08:42pm

4:30 remaining in the 1st quarter of the Heat/Mavs game tonight (Game 3). Dwayne Wade gets a pass right under his basket, reverse dunks it, holds the rim and lifts his knees. Ref T's him up for it!

I can't remember the last time I saw a T for hanging on the rim in an NBA game. It happens all the time and is NEVER called. But in the Finals, they decide they have to grab it? I'm scratching my head over that one, to be honest.

ChuckElias · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Jun 13, 2006, 08:47pm

2:05 left in the first period, Wade is called for traveling!

tweetz · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Jun 13, 2006, 08:51pm

who else is watching the game and this board at the same time?

ChuckElias · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Jun 13, 2006, 09:12pm

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Originally Posted by tweetz

who else is watching the game and this board at the same time?

I'm watching Game 3, this forum, and the Sox/Twinkies game. It's 1-1 in the top of the 9th.

Back In The Saddle · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Jun 13, 2006, 08:55pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias

2:05 left in the first period, Wade is called for traveling!

Sounds like Wade pissed somebody off

ChuckElias · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Jun 13, 2006, 09:10pm

The travel was a pretty obvious one. He ended his dribble then jumped to pass, but didn't have anybody open. So he dropped the ball to the floor and grabbed it again.

But I think you're right; he made somebody mad to draw that T.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 14, 2006, 09:18am

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias

2:05 left in the first period, Wade is called for traveling!

Chuck:

Shaq was called for traveling in the second game too.

MTD, Sr.

bbref3103 · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 14, 2006, 09:36am

Extremely well stated!!

Jurassic Referee · #9 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 14, 2006, 10:08am

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Originally Posted by bbref3103

Extremely well stated!!

Welcome back.

More AAU stories

Always glad to read your views on officiating....

ChuckElias · #10 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 14, 2006, 10:12am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Welcome back.

I was wondering what the heck made you dig up that old thread. . .

Kajun Ref N Texas · #11 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 14, 2006, 05:45pm

It is obvious to me that legal gaurding position is a concept that does not translate to the NBA. This frustrates me. Do you agree? Disagree?

ChuckElias · #12 (**permalink**) Tue Jun 13, 2006, 09:56pm

9:35 left in the 3rd quarter, a carrying violation against Dallas. Somebody tell these guys to enforce the rules tonight? LOL

JLMatthew · #13 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 14, 2006, 02:04am

They called 5 travels in games 1 and 2 also...It's the old veterans making those calls. Also have seen lots of off-ball offensive foul calls. It's a breath of fresh air.

JRutledge · #14 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 14, 2006, 02:12am

If you actually watch an NBA game, you would see a lot of travels being called. I do not see any less traveling called in NBA games as I have seen in a D1 game. I have watched just one quarter of other playoff games and not only was traveling called, but it was called several times in just a few possessions. I think some of you are buying into what the media tells you than seeing the game for yourself.

Peace

SMEngmann · #15 (**permalink**) Wed Jun 14, 2006, 05:18am

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Originally Posted by JLMatthew

They called 5 travels in games 1 and 2 also...It's the old veterans making those calls. Also have seen lots of off-ball offensive foul calls. It's a breath of fresh air.

I don't understand the current preoccupation that officials have now about emphasizing travelling, carrying and off ball fouls such as marginal bad screens. These violations are game interrupters that put the focus of the game squarely on the officials. Travelling and carrying should be called when obvious and when they cause an advantage IMO. If you gotta replay the tape 5 times to see the travel, it's not a travel. If a player palms the ball while dribbling in the open court, why stop the game and call it? Also, officials who become "travel officials" are so focused on the violation that they cannot effectively referee the defense. Call the obvious, call what matters, it just leads to a much better game.

As for the off ball offensive fouls, same principle. If there's an advantage, it's obvious or non-basketball, get it, if it's marginal, or there's doubt, why stop the game? If these fouls aren't obvious, the game will get out of hand very quickly, putting a negative focus squarely on the officials. For the record, every one of the NBA off ball fouls/travels were obvious and had to be gotten, they were quality calls.

To sum up, and I know a lot of people will disagree, the emphasis should not be the number of off ball calls or violations, but the quality of those calls, especially considering the context of the game. Too many people wrongly justify weak calls by claiming to "preserve the integrity of the game." Hogwash, consider the context of the game and the spirit and intent of the rules and call the obvious, it leads to a better game and less trouble.