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ATXCoach Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:19am

seatbelt rule and coaching box
 
is there a "seatbelt" rule for ncaa women's basketball?

Also, where is the coaching box. Does it extend from the first chair to the baseline? I like to roam the sideline when I can, and AAU uses NCAA rules.

Thanks for the clarification

Dan_ref Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:30am

Were you at Ramapo College 2 weeks ago?

ATXCoach Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:35am

I was not at Rampo College

this all stems from a mild disagreement between myself and I ref I know very well

ChuckElias Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:53am

There is no seatbelt rule in the NCAA. I know this is true for men's and almost positive that it is true for women's.

The coaching box extends from the 28' hashmark to the endline.

The relevant rule is NCAA 10-10. There is no mention of the coach losing the coaching box privilege. And there is no section that addresses any difference in the women's game.

bob jenkins Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:22pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
There is no seatbelt rule in the NCAA. I know this is true for men's and almost positive that it is true for women's.

The coaching box extends from the 28' hashmark to the endline.

The relevant rule is NCAA 10-10. There is no mention of the coach losing the coaching box privilege. And there is no section that addresses any difference in the women's game.

It's the same for both.

ChuckElias Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:29pm

Here's a question, Bob. If the head coach gets tossed, does the assistant get to stand? In HS, they've made a point of saying no. But I don't see anything specifically addressing this in 10-11.

Also, I was told last year that there was a change allowing assistants to stand "briefly" or "momentarily" to coach as long they immediately sat back down. Any truth to that? Again, I don't see anything specific in there. Maybe it was released in a mid-season bulletin?

NDRef Fri Jun 16, 2006 01:19pm

Chuck,

Asst. coaches are NOT ALLOWED to stand while the clock is running--no exceptions.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jun 16, 2006 01:43pm

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Originally Posted by NDRef
Chuck,

Asst. coaches are NOT ALLOWED to stand while the clock is running--no exceptions.

Agree- NCAA rule 10-11 is pretty explicit on that. Assistant coaches are like players; they can stand to cheer a good play but then they gotta sit right back down. The "Womens Report" for 2005-06 at the front of the rulebook also states "The head coach shall be the <b>only</b> person standing in the bench area and should remain within the coaching box".

Of course, in real life.......

I've seen D1 games with assistant coaches up and down. I don't think that most official care, even if they do happen to notice them, as long as it's quick and they're not b!tching at the officials.

ChuckElias Fri Jun 16, 2006 01:57pm

I agree that the rulebook is clear. That's why I wondered if a change had been made through a mid-season bulletin. I can't get onto eofficials to check the old bulletins, for some reason.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jun 16, 2006 02:17pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
I agree that the rulebook is clear. That's why I wondered if a change had been made through a mid-season bulletin. I can't get onto eofficials to check the old bulletins, for some reason.

http://www.eofficials.com/controlpag...px?ContentID=3

ChuckElias Fri Jun 16, 2006 02:34pm

Aha!! I was right. Here it is from the bulletin dated December 14, 2005. It's on page 3:

Quote:

On a related matter, assistant coaches and other bench personnel except for the head coach must remain seated during the game, standing only to react to a good play. Assistant coaches are allowed to stand briefly to give instructions to their players but must immediately return to their seat on the bench.
Thanks for the link, JR.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jun 16, 2006 02:56pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Aha!! I was right. Here it is from the bulletin dated December 14, 2005. It's on page 3:


Now, does that mean that assistant coaches can stand to talk to players on the <b>bench</b> or on the <b>court</b>? Or both?

ChuckElias Fri Jun 16, 2006 04:11pm

Aren't players always on the court? If they'd meant to restrict it to the guys on the bench, they'd have said "bench personnel".

ChuckElias Fri Jun 16, 2006 04:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NDRef
Chuck,

Asst. coaches are NOT ALLOWED to stand while the clock is running--no exceptions.

ND, this simply isn't true. Even if we're not talking about coaching the players, there are exceptions. See 10-11-3 a, c.


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