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New2AZref Sun Apr 30, 2006 04:19am
Backcourt Violation?
 
The following happened earlier today:

Ball is being inbounded in the frontcourt, near midcourt, opposite tableside, by Team A.

A1 is throwing the ball inbounds, and throws it towards the backcourt.

A2, who has both feet in the frontcourt, jumps to catch the ball.

After securing the ball in the air, A2 then lands in the backcourt.

My call: Backcourt Violation.

My partners call: legal play

We got together on this, and he insisted that it was a legal play...and did so in front of the coach to begin with...... and during our conversation it was obvious that he didnt agree with my call.

Rather than argue, after the conference, I blew my whistle and we gave Team A the ball back.

Constructive Criticism Please :)

Jurassic Referee Sun Apr 30, 2006 05:50am
Quote:
Originally Posted by New2AZref
The following happened earlier today:

Ball is being inbounded in the frontcourt, near midcourt, opposite tableside, by Team A.

A1 is throwing the ball inbounds, and throws it towards the backcourt.

A2, who has both feet in the frontcourt, jumps to catch the ball.

After securing the ball in the air, A2 then lands in the backcourt.

My call: Backcourt Violation.

My partners call: legal play

We got together on this, and he insisted that it was a legal play...and did so in front of the coach to begin with...... and during our conversation it was obvious that he didnt agree with my call.

Rather than argue, after the conference, I blew my whistle and we gave Team A the ball back.

Constructive Criticism Please
Your partner had the right call under both NFHS and NCAA rules. That's a legal play.

The NFHS rules citation is rule 9-9-3.

Your partner was wrong though in insisting that he was right in front of the coach. That conversation shoulda been held just between the the two of you, and in a spot where nobody else could hear what you two were saying. That procedure should be set in your pre-game.

Luis Sun Apr 30, 2006 08:06am
Excuse me but was this exactly a legal play in NCAA or NFHS?
Regarding FIBA, this is obviously a back.

bob jenkins Sun Apr 30, 2006 08:33am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis
Excuse me but was this exactly a legal play in NCAA or NFHS?
Regarding FIBA, this is obviously a back.
Yes, it's legal in FED and NCAA.

New2AZref Sun Apr 30, 2006 09:44am
Can you point me to the rule that refers to this situation in the NCAA rulebook?

How about the NBA rulebook? What is the call there?

Thanks :)

Jurassic Referee Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:09am
Quote:
Originally Posted by New2AZref
Can you point me to the rule that refers to this situation in the NCAA rulebook?

How about the NBA rulebook? What is the call there?

Thanks :)
The NCAA cite is rule 9-12-6.

Don't know and don't care about the NBA.

crazy voyager Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:34am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
The NCAA cite is rule 9-12-6.

Don't know and don't care about the NBA.
Could somebody please quote that rule for me?

I'm intrested becuse as Luis said, this is a bc violation in fiba

Jay R Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:19am
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy voyager
Could somebody please quote that rule for me?

I'm intrested becuse as Luis said, this is a bc violation in fiba
This link will download the NCAA rulebook. You can read it yourself. I think the reference is 9-12-5 however.

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf

BOBBYMO Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:23am
Pro rule.... Yes and No
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy voyager
Could somebody please quote that rule for me?

I'm intrested becuse as Luis said, this is a bc violation in fiba
In US Pro Rules it MAY OR MAY NOT be be a violation:

Any ball out of bounds in a teams front court or at the midcourt line cannot be passed into the back court On all backcourt and midcourt violations, the ball shall be awarded to the opposing team at the midcourtline and must be passed into the frontcourt.

EXCEPTION: During the last 2 min's of the 4th period and/or any overtime period the ball may be passed anywhere ( front court or backcourt) on the court.

Hope this helps!!! This is also one of many reasons we must have the clock awareness at all times........talked about in another post.

Back In The Saddle Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:39pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBBYMO

EXCEPTION: During the last 2 min's of the 4th period and/or any overtime period the ball may be passed anywhere ( front court or backcourt) on the court.
I'm unclear on this, does this mean that the ball can be passed into backcourt during the last 2 minutes of overtime, or anytime during overtime?

BktBallRef Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:38pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by New2AZref
The following happened earlier today:

Ball is being inbounded in the frontcourt, near midcourt, opposite tableside, by Team A.

A1 is throwing the ball inbounds, and throws it towards the backcourt.

A2, who has both feet in the frontcourt, jumps to catch the ball.

After securing the ball in the air, A2 then lands in the backcourt.

My call: Backcourt Violation.

My partners call: legal play

We got together on this, and he insisted that it was a legal play...and did so in front of the coach to begin with...... and during our conversation it was obvious that he didnt agree with my call.

Rather than argue, after the conference, I blew my whistle and we gave Team A the ball back.

Constructive Criticism Please :)
Legal play.

On a throw-in, the rule allows A2 to jump from the FC, catch the ball and land ion the BC. Brush up on rule 9-9 and the case plays under 9.9.

BOBBYMO Mon May 01, 2006 01:19am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
I'm unclear on this, does this mean that the ball can be passed into backcourt during the last 2 minutes of overtime, or anytime during overtime?
Its the last 2 min's of the 4th quarter and / or the last 2 min's of all overtimes... Hope this helps clear it up. ( US PRO RULES ONLY)

Jay R Mon May 01, 2006 04:28pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBBYMO
Its the last 2 min's of the 4th quarter and / or the last 2 min's of all overtimes... Hope this helps clear it up. ( US PRO RULES ONLY)
My understanding was that this NBA rule only applied to situations after a timeout where to ball is brought into the front court. I am not certain about the NBA rule however.

ChuckElias Mon May 01, 2006 05:14pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay R
My understanding was that this NBA rule only applied to situations after a timeout where to ball is brought into the front court. I am not certain about the NBA rule however.
Jay, Bobby typed out the rule for us above. It applies to any frontcourt throw-in during the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter or the last 2 minutes of any OT period.

eiguaram55ref Mon May 01, 2006 10:51pm
backing violation
 
If The Offensive Player Has A Control Of The Ball And His Point
Of Origin Is Coming From Frontcourt And Landed To Backcourt--
In Fiba Backing Violation.

In Nba In Last Two Minutes of the 4th and extra You Can Throw In The Ball In The Backcourt--legal In Last Two Minutes In My Opinion.

Eigua A Fiba Ref Like Luis


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