Post: you make the call video

[All_Heart]

Okay someone requested a Poll for this block/charge http://thomass2004.home.comcast.net/...ockcharge.mpeg

you make the call video

[QuebecRef87]

Block - Right call

Shame on whoever says travel...

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by QuebecRef87

Block - Right call

Shame on whoever says travel...

Why because you don't think it's a travel or because you don't think it should be called?

[QuebecRef87]

Simply because nothing even comes close to a travel in that play.

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by QuebecRef87

Simply because nothing even comes close to a travel in that play.

When he gathers the ball the left foot is on the ground. Therefore this makes it his pivot foot. He then picks up the left foot and places it back to the floor. Ergo a travel. Please don't say that he's allowed 2 steps

I did say in my original post that I would not call this a travel because there are probably only 1% of officials that would call this and that is not the way to move up the ranks. I was just stating that it is a travel BY RULE.

[PGCougar]

Block. (Unless of course I was coaching for White in which case it would clearly be a charge...)

At game speed, I'm not sure how you can be watching the defender as he steps in late AND possibly see whether the ball handler's foot is planted or airborne as he gathers the ball for the lay-up.

Even after several rewinds, I'm having trouble seeing any travel clearly. Travel would be a tough call imo.

[QuebecRef87]

At first I only checked it from the top view but from the side view, well, it actually comes close. But as the play happens quite fast, we can't really tell if he lifted his foot before gathering the ball. Therefore I don't see how you can be so positive about it!

[QuebecRef87]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

Please don't say that he's allowed 2 steps

NEVER IN MY WHOLE LIFE!!

[kiwiref]

I have to admit that, after repeated viewings, I have to agree with those who say there was a travel. However, to be honest, I can't see myself calling it in a game. Simply, the situation is so marginal that at a game speed I would not spare it another thought.

[tomegun]

I had to go to my own site to see this play and remember it. This play was NOT put out because of travelling. This play was chosen by an official who is very, very good at breaking down tape and the call in question is block/charge. I would almost go so far as to say, if you are going to worry about that play being a travel with the athletes that play the game today, you will have a hard go of it. The proposed travel on that play is an ant; the block/charge is an elephant. If we can get the elephants and leave the ants alone we will be at or near the 80% mark and will have had a good game.

I've had more plays, but they all involve a NBA game and I know how that goes over. I will try to get some more college plays and put them up.

Oh, can the 5 people who say this is a charge step forward?

[crazy voyager]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I had to go to my own site to see this play and remember it. This play was NOT put out because of travelling. This play was chosen by an official who is very, very good at breaking down tape and the call in question is block/charge. I would almost go so far as to say, if you are going to worry about that play being a travel with the athletes that play the game today, you will have a hard go of it. The proposed travel on that play is an ant; the block/charge is an elephant. If we can get the elephants and leave the ants alone we will be at or near the 80% mark and will have had a good game.

I've had more plays, but they all involve a NBA game and I know how that goes over. I will try to get some more college plays and put them up.

Oh, can the 5 people who say this is a charge step forward?

was that a serious question? just a question, I call this a charge btw, could there be any diffrence between the rules set on how to call this? Iow, the others saying charge, what rules do you use? Fiba for me (unless u know that already scince I say it all the time )

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Oh, can the 5 people who say this is a charge step forward?

You can click on the voting number to see the names of those who voted.