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dave30 Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:44pm

NBA continuation rule
 
Did anyone catch Derek Fisher's 3 pt try after a foul against Dallas tonight? Why wasn't it continuation? If it is because his foot hit the floor, then why do they allow a step on other continuation plays? I thought maybe the referee anticipated the foul and waved it off too soon. J.Richardson got them in the end though, so it won't be talked about too much.

JRutledge Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:04am

My understanding to the NBA Rule is the same as the rule is written at the NF and NCAA level. I have no idea about the play you saw, but I can tell you what people think is special to the NBA continuation rule is basically the same at the other levels.

Peace

tjones1 Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:54am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
My understanding to the NBA Rule is the same as the rule is written at the NF and NCAA level. I have no idea about the play you saw, but I can tell you what people think is special to the NBA continuation rule is basically the same at the other levels.

Peace

I would agree JRut. I hear that type of comment almost every game.

"Hey ref, this isn't the NBA!"

...

Ok, I somewhat already knew that, however the player does get to continue their shot. :D

refTN Fri Mar 24, 2006 01:27am

JRut is right. The NBA rule is essentially the same just explained with more detail. Here was another topic on it. I took the opposition just to get some good arguments out of it. Here's the thread:
http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...t=continuation

tomegun Fri Mar 24, 2006 07:08am

This is absolutely correct, but how many times do refs come in with, "no shot, on the floor?" There are way too many fouls resulting in a throw-in that should be two free-throws.

refTN Fri Mar 24, 2006 09:24am

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Originally Posted by tomegun
This is absolutely correct, but how many times do refs come in with, "no shot, on the floor?" There are way too many fouls resulting in a throw-in that should be two free-throws.

Couldn't agree any more.
I can't remember what game it was last night but a kid drove and gathered the ball, right as he did he got hit on the arm, the referee blew the whistle and in one continous motion he scores with the other defender right in front of him taking a charge, the official called the hit on the arm and came in waving off the basket.

truerookie Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:16am

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Originally Posted by refTN
Couldn't agree any more.
I can't remember what game it was last night but a kid drove and gathered the ball, right as he did he got hit on the arm, the referee blew the whistle and in one continous motion he scores with the other defender right in front of him taking a charge, the official called the hit on the arm and came in waving off the basket.

It was the TX/ WVU.

jkjenning Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:20pm

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Originally Posted by refTN
Couldn't agree any more.
I can't remember what game it was last night but a kid drove and gathered the ball, right as he did he got hit on the arm, the referee blew the whistle and in one continous motion he scores with the other defender right in front of him taking a charge, the official called the hit on the arm and came in waving off the basket.
refTN,
1. I'm not clear what "Couldn't agree any more" means:
a. I could not agree with you more, meaning "very much in agreement"
b. I find that I can no longer agree with you

Anyway, I did not see the play you described but it sounds like the right call - waving off the basket, that is. The defensive foul happened first, so it was called... if the shot is not waved off then you have to call the charge. In either case, there can be no FTs.

Perhaps this is case where a multiple foul should have been called??? When you think about it, continuation would mean the ball is not dead until the shot ends and both the hack by the first defender and the charge by the shooter happened during a live ball.

Raymond Fri Mar 24, 2006 02:52pm

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Originally Posted by refTN
Couldn't agree any more.
I can't remember what game it was last night but a kid drove and gathered the ball, right as he did he got hit on the arm, the referee blew the whistle and in one continous motion he scores with the other defender right in front of him taking a charge, the official called the hit on the arm and came in waving off the basket.

It was the UCLA/Gonzaga game, UCLA player in the last 2 minutes. I was very puzzled as to why the official waved off the basket. The player was gathering the ball for his shot when the first player hit his arm, then as he released the ball there was contact with the defender in front of him.

From the comfort of my sofa it looked like continous motion and the basket should have counted, but that's a lot lower-paying vantage point than the official who had only a split second to make his call.

BktBallRef Fri Mar 24, 2006 03:34pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun
This is absolutely correct, but how many times do refs come in with, "no shot, on the floor?" There are way too many fouls resulting in a throw-in that should be two free-throws.

How about the shot at the end of the UCLA-Gonzaga game last night? I'm still trying to understand why that was waved off.

BktBallRef Fri Mar 24, 2006 03:55pm

Oops! Note to self: Always read entire thread before posting!

I agree BadNews. The only thing I could figure was that he called the foul on the defender behind the shooter and not the one positioned for the block/charge.

dave30 Fri Mar 24, 2006 04:44pm

Did anyone happen to flip the channel and catch the Derek Fisher shot? I stilll don't know if it should have counted or not.

icallfouls Fri Mar 24, 2006 06:10pm

This topic seems to come up regularly. But the last time (last year, I believe)I decided to chime in, I went to the NBA website for some input. Basically, it is similar to the NFL rule on catching a pass.....the player must make an athletic play with the ball. The idea is about entertainment, and a bunch of traveling calls is not viewed as entertainment by the league.


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