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Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:13am
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Originally posted by The Little Guy That Lives Under A Bridge
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Originally posted by Dickhead
How many more play-in games?

1? 2? 11?
7 more. Two play-in games for each region. That probably will allow the rest of the teams that really should be in to be in. And there are certainly 8 teams that have no shot of winning for those play-in games.

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Originally posted by The Icon
I think that every D1 team should be invited to the tournament.

That's only.....fair.

I actually heard this proposed on TV, and I think the guy was serious. He said you choose 32 teams to have byes, and let everybody else in the country fight it out for the other 32 spots. Never going to happen, but I think he meant it.
How about picking 63 teams then, and putting every one of the other D1 teams in the NIT? Whoever wins the NIT then gets to go in May Madness.

On second thought, that's really not fair to the D2 and D3 teams, is it? Maybe the D2 and D3 teams can playdown their tournaments first, and then their winners get to go into the NIT. Thoughts?

Dan_ref Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:14am
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by the Grouch
How many more play-in games?

1? 2? 11?
7 more. Two play-in games for each region. That probably will allow the rest of the teams that really should be in to be in. And there are certainly 8 teams that have no shot of winning for those play-in games.


That should be fun. A 2 round mini-tournament on the Tuesday/Wednesday prior to the start of the real tournament. Eight 25 point blowouts over 2 days. And the eventual winners each gets a chance to <s>get blown out by</s> play the legitimate 1 seed in their region...hmmm...yeah, let's do it...I wonder what's on the History Channel...?
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Originally posted by the Geezer
I think that every D1 team should be invited to the tournament.

That's only.....fair.

I actually heard this proposed on TV, and I think the guy was serious. He said you choose 32 teams to have byes, and let everybody else in the country fight it out for the other 32 spots. Never going to happen, but I think he meant it.
Almost as ridiculous as having 8 play-in games.

Dan_ref Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:19am
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

On second thought, that's really not fair to the D2 and D3 teams, is it? Maybe the D2 and D3 teams can playdown their tournaments first, and then their winners get to go into the NIT. Thoughts?
Now we're getting somewhere.

And the eventual winner of the combined NCAA D1/D2/D3 tournament plays the NIT winner & THAT winner plays the NBA champion. Sometime in late August.

Hmmm...need a way to work in FIBA, AAU & CYO but we are definitiely on the right track...

ChuckElias Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:19am
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
That should be fun. A 2 round mini-tournament on the Tuesday/Wednesday prior to the start of the real tournament. Eight 25 point blowouts over 2 days.
No, the play-in games won't be 25 point blow-outs b/c it will be the 8 lowest seeds playing each other. They'll be competitive, even if their fans are the only ones watching.

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Almost as ridiculous as having 8 play-in games.
I think it's much more ridiculous, personally.

Dan_ref Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:23am
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
That should be fun. A 2 round mini-tournament on the Tuesday/Wednesday prior to the start of the real tournament. Eight 25 point blowouts over 2 days.
No, the play-in games won't be 25 point blow-outs b/c it will be the 8 lowest seeds playing each other. They'll be competitive, even if their fans are the only ones watching.


Right, just like last night's game.

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Almost as ridiculous as having 8 play-in games.
I think it's much more ridiculous, personally. [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, at least we agree it's ridiculous.

26 Year Gap Wed Mar 15, 2006 01:12pm
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Well, at least both committees were consist with Tennessee. Men & women are both #2 seeds.
Except that one won't get beat by a 7.
Are you absolutely, guaranteed, positively sure about that? If you know this for a fact, please send me the winning lottery ticket numbers for Friday's MegaMillion drawing.:D
I don't play the lottery, but the only people that think Tennesee's men's team deserved anything near a 2 likely went there or live there. But I am sure the Wichita State fans are happy that BC did not get that seed instead. ;)

ChuckElias Wed Mar 15, 2006 01:37pm
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Originally posted by 26 Year Gap
I don't play the lottery,
The lottery is simply a tax on people who can't do math.

BktBallRef Wed Mar 15, 2006 02:52pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Then the discussion centers around bubble teams that were denied a chance to play the play-in games.
But we already have that problem.
Exactly. So your plan doesn't solve anything. :)

BTW, Monmouth beat the crap out of Hampton last night.

ChuckElias Wed Mar 15, 2006 04:38pm
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Exactly. So your plan doesn't solve anything. :)
Well, my plan gets Cincinnati into the tournament, since they clearly are better than several of the at-large teams that were taken. You will have other "bubble" teams that are left out; but as I said, those teams will have RPI's in the 100's instead of in the 20's. And it's very difficult to make the case that a team with an RPI of 120 should be in the tournament.

Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 15, 2006 05:11pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Exactly. So your plan doesn't solve anything. :)
Well, my plan gets Cincinnati into the tournament, since they clearly are better than several of the at-large teams that were taken.
My plan gets Cinci in too.

My plan solves everything.

Dan_ref Wed Mar 15, 2006 05:14pm
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Exactly. So your plan doesn't solve anything. :)
Well, my plan gets Cincinnati into the tournament, since they clearly are better than several of the at-large teams that were taken.
My plan gets Cinci in too.
Bah. My plan gets EVERYBODY in, including the Japan all-stars and the St Stanislaus 7th grade CYO girl's travel B team.

Raymond Thu Mar 16, 2006 03:18pm
Horizon over Big 12

MVC over Big East

Big West takes ACC into double OT

This is why Billy Packer needs to STFU

Forksref Thu Mar 16, 2006 03:30pm
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Exactly. So your plan doesn't solve anything. :)
Well, my plan gets Cincinnati into the tournament, since they clearly are better than several of the at-large teams that were taken.
My plan gets Cinci in too.
Bah. My plan gets EVERYBODY in, including the Japan all-stars and the St Stanislaus 7th grade CYO girl's travel B team.

St. Stan's recruits more heavily than Duke.

26 Year Gap Thu Mar 16, 2006 06:25pm
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Originally posted by BadNewsRef
Horizon over Big 12

MVC over Big East

Big West takes ACC into double OT

This is why Billy Packer needs to STFU
Actually when Wichita State handles Tennessee will be the time.

Rich Thu Mar 16, 2006 07:18pm
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Originally posted by 26 Year Gap
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Originally posted by BadNewsRef
Horizon over Big 12

MVC over Big East

Big West takes ACC into double OT

This is why Billy Packer needs to STFU
Actually when Wichita State handles Tennessee will be the time.
What is your beef with Tennessee? 7 losses, 2 wins against Florida, and a win against Texas. They stumbled a bit at the end, sure, and should've been a 4 seed, but it's not like they suck or anything. They're 22-7.


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