I have seen this question before but can't find the thread.

Here is the situation: A1 is shooting free throws, any type. B1 steps in the lane too soon, delayed violation. Then a player from team A steps in too soon.

Edit: A2 and B1 enter lane at same time, both early. What is done?

What is the proper procedure? Cancel the free throw, shoot the next free throw if more are to be given, if not would you go to the arrow?

Another free throw question: Late in game, team A leading. Team A shooting free throws with no players from team A on the lane. Team B occupies 3 spaces, all normal spaces but only one of the bottom two spaces are occupied. Is this a delay of game, T, or delayed free throw violation? I'm thinking delay of game or T.

Please help me clear these up, some rules or case references would be greatly appreciated so I can look at my books when I get home.

[Edited by lukealex on Feb 28th, 2006 at 10:34 PM]

1) Delayed violation on B1 only. Ignore the second violation by the A player on the lane. Rule 9-1PENALTY 4(a).

2) Delayed free-throw violation.Rule 9-1-2 and PENALTY 2.

This rule changed a few seasons ago. It used to be a violation by both teams, but now only the first violation along the lane is penalized and the second is ignored.
Rule 9 Violations and Penalties
SECTION 1 FREE-THROW PROVISIONS
PENALTIES: (Section 1)
...
4. If there is a violation first by the free-thrower's opponent followed by the free thrower or a teammate:

a. If both offenders are in a marked lane-space, the second violation is ignored, as in penalty item (2).
...

10.1.5 SITUATION C: The calling official has reported the foul and proceeds to his/her proper position for the first of two free throws awarded to A1. B1 and B2 are: (a) huddling in the lane; or <font color = blue>(b) two B players are not occupying the first two marked spaces next to the end line as required.</font> RULING: In (a), if the huddle delays the officials' administration, Team B is warned. The warning is recorded by the scorer and reported to the head coach. If Team B had been previously warned for free-throw delay, a technical foul shall be charged. <font color = blue>In (b), Team B will be directed to occupy the required spaces. If there is delay, a technical foul shall be charged to Team B. (4-47)</font>

If situation #2 follows a TO, then we use the Resuming Play Procedure and give the delayed violation, yes?

If it does not follow a TO, then we give the T with no warning. Correct?

If a defender in a lower lane spot leaves that spot to line up in another spot after the FT shooter gets the ball, we give the delayed violation, yes?

Yes, but how is that relevant to the question of failing to occupy the bottom lane spaces? :confused:

The original post said that team B filled 3 slots but only one of them was the bottom slot. It didn't say <b>when</b> or <b>how</b> the slots were filled, did it? :confused:

Ok, I see your point. I was assuming that the bottom spot was never filled. You're saying it's possible that it was filled but that the player was stupid enough to move out of the spot into a less advantageous spot. Hey, stranger things have happened.

If he was in the lowest spot when the shooter caught the pass from the Lead official and then moved, it's a delayed violation.

If he was in the lowest spot but moved before the shooter caught the pass from the Lead official OR if he never filled the lowest spot, then instruct him to fill the lowest spot. If he refuses, immediate T.

Thanks for typing that last post more slowly for me.

Yup, and if it's after a TO, then your answer is correct also. Iow, 3 possible answers depending on the exact timing. On further review though, I'd have to say the most likely answer would be Nevada's--tell 'em to fill the spaces and "T" 'em if they don't.

I see where there are differences in how this could happen.

My situation was after a foul while in the bonus. The bottom two spots were never both filled. In that case, tell them to fill the spot then T if they refuse?

Yup, as per the case play that NevadaRef cited.

From the rule you cited, would this be if a player left the bottom space?

Yes.

Actually, this very thing happened to us last Sat. in a JUCO game. The players lined up for the first of two free throws in the first half, then B1 decides her contact is bothering her and heads back towards her bench as the ball is bounced to the shooter. So, as A1 misses the first shot, B1 is standing next to her bench trying to fix her contact, and no one is in that first spot.

Sigh. Delayed violation, A1 shoots again. Coach says, "Huh?" We explain it, he says, "Oh, yea, you're right. Good catch." No more contact problems the rest of the game.

Since she left before the ball was at the disposal of the thrower, take the ball back and ask her (or someone else) to fill the spot.