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IdahoRef Thu Feb 16, 2006 05:12pm

When under the basket and there is alot of legal contact going on but there is no foul (eg. one put back try after another, and maybe add a lose ball or two - all in the paint); the crowd is beginning to roar because of no call, but I've got good position and I see no foul. Question: What signal/motion do you do (if any) to let the crowd know that you were on top of it and saw no foul? Thanks!

Snake~eyes Thu Feb 16, 2006 05:16pm

You don't do anything.

The signal you can use is not holding your fist up in the air.

FrankHtown Thu Feb 16, 2006 05:37pm

The danger of using the "tip" signal is the same as the problem with the "blarge" You signal a tip...partner comes in with a foul call. Now everybody is upset.

Don't signal anything. It's better to let them think you're blind, than to get into that kind of problem.

Adam Thu Feb 16, 2006 09:10pm

Blow your whistle to stop play. Walk over to the table and use the microphone to explain the play to the crowd. Use this opportunity to explain why you did or did not call the back court violation they were screaming about two possessions earlier.

TriggerMN Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:38pm

There's a signal for this. Cock both of your arms behind your head, then throw both of them forward over your head with the middle finger extended on each hand.

Rich Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:42pm

Quote:

Originally posted by TriggerMN
There's a signal for this. Cock both of your arms behind your head, then throw both of them forward over your head with the middle finger extended on each hand.
Either that or use this opportunity to shove both hands down inside your Sansabelt pants and undergarments and adjust the boys.

just another ref Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:14am

Shrug your shoulders and keep cocking your head at different angles, all the while sporting the most bewildered expression you can muster. That usually calms 'em right down.

ncump7 Fri Feb 17, 2006 02:05am

Look up in the crowd and give them your best impression of the Bobby Knight "game face".

Nevadaref Fri Feb 17, 2006 03:35am

Who gives a d@mn about what the crowd thinks?

Do you take a public opinion poll before each of your calls?

ncump7 Fri Feb 17, 2006 06:52am

Nope, no opinion polls are necessary. It was a joke. I'm sure if you look around Nevada long enough, you'll find someone who has a sense of humor.

ditttoo Fri Feb 17, 2006 08:29am

Quote:

Originally posted by Snaqwells
Blow your whistle to stop play. Walk over to the table and use the microphone to explain the play to the crowd. Use this opportunity to explain why you did or did not call the back court violation they were screaming about two possessions earlier.
Exactly what is wrong with most officials...at least JOG over to the table instead of walking. My gosh, hustle!!

How many times have you wished you could do just that...use the microphone and let the crowd know!! PRICELESS.

SeanFitzRef Fri Feb 17, 2006 09:30am

Blow your whistle to stop game. Proceed to laundry basket sitting in corner with striped shirts. Offer them to any and all that feel they can do a better job, or even have the guts to try. After receiving no takers, return to game and continue in silence and peace.


IdahoRef Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:05am

Well, I did laugh out loud with the microphone take! BUT thanks for the advice. I so often see guys make the tip signal but you guys helped solidify that the "tip" call could get you into real trouble when my partner calls the foul. Thanks guys/gals!

kiwiref Fri Feb 17, 2006 09:19pm

Australians handle these ones well...
 
You see, it's all about respect. You can get that respect by doing something that would impress the crowd. Showing them fingers, will get you there eventualy, but an even faster way would be to:
1) Stand up straight. Reach into your back pocket.
2) Produce a flask.
3) Take a decent gulp of that bourbon, followed by a massive burp, and a loud "That's some good old ****" comment.
4) Now turn around and offer the flask to the spectator closest to you. Observe the utter silence as you do that.
5) Shrug your shoulders as he/she refuses, pack in the flask, and run up the court, as the game has surely moved on.
6) Make sure you say "Enjoy the rest of the game" to the crowd before you start running.

chrs_schuster Sat Feb 18, 2006 09:23am

Holy Sh$t! I just spit coffee on my computer screen! That was the funniest thing I've read on this forum. Get the microphone! WOW that was funny. LOL

Dan_ref Sat Feb 18, 2006 06:37pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
Who gives a d@mn about what the crowd thinks?

Do you take a public opinion poll before each of your calls?

Yes I do, maybe that's why my games last 6 hours.

(Regis, can I phone a friend??)

IdahoRef Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:15am

No, I don't take into account crowd opinion! I've come to this site to learn how to be a better official and that is why I ask. Those of you who are trying to berate me are most likely those officials who when you put on the stripes, you become a different person - an overlord over the kids and coaches. I'm doing this to serve our high school kids and want to be the best official I can be.

cloverdale Wed Feb 22, 2006 01:17am

easy fella
 
don't take the ribbing personally...it wasn't directed toward you and there are those who want to be good officals, some who are working toward being a better offical and those who just plain are great officals...you will get great advice here but if we cannot joke around a little then maybe you're just a bit to serious and need to develope a thicker skin...the crowd is the very last thing to worry about in the game, most have a great advantage in seeing the play but don't have the rules knowledge or how to apply them...you want something to work toward being a better offical, then support your partner, be consistant and try to take someting from each game and work on it.

ChuckElias Wed Feb 22, 2006 08:40am

Quote:

Originally posted by IdahoRef
Those of you who are trying to berate me are most likely those officials who when you put on the stripes, you become a different person - an overlord over the kids and coaches.
Now look here. I didn't come in 'ere for abuse! I came in 'ere for an argument!

What?!? Oh, quite sorry. This is abuse. You want Room 12A, just along the corridor. Good day! <font size = -2>Stupid git.</font>

IdahoRef Sat Feb 25, 2006 01:26am

Which person were you directing your reply? How do I not take it "personally" if you are directing your reply to a person?

I thought you were directing your reply to me! Oops, my bad!

Sirrefalot Sat Feb 25, 2006 02:26pm

I literally have tears running down my cheeks... good advice!


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