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shawn29 Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:47pm

Ball thrown length of the court by A1, hits the floor just outside the 3 point line, bounces into A's basket. Clock is not a factor here,3 points, or 2?

WhistlesAndStripes Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:48pm

2.

ChuckElias Thu Feb 16, 2006 01:15pm

This one could go in the FAQ, too. :)

shawn29 Thu Feb 16, 2006 01:19pm

Rule reference to show that its a 2 point basket please. And I missed this question if it has been addressed previously. Thanx for the responses.

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 16, 2006 01:23pm

Quote:

Originally posted by shawn29
Rule reference to show that its a 2 point basket please. And I missed this question if it has been addressed previously. Thanx for the responses.
See case book play 5.1.1(a). The 3-point try ended when it was certain it would be unsuccessful or the try hits the floor, as per rule 4-41-4.

shawn29 Thu Feb 16, 2006 01:37pm

J.R.
 
In 5.1.1.A A pass, a tap or a try for field goal by A1 comes down several feet in front of the basket. I didnt take that to mean that it bounced from outside the 3 point line. 5.2.1.B makes me think this is a 3 point basket by saying that in this play it is 3 regardless of whether the thrown ball was an actual try for goal. Can you shed anymore light on this for me. Thanx again.

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 16, 2006 01:52pm

Re: J.R.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by shawn29
In 5.1.1.A A pass, a tap or a try for field goal by A1 comes down several feet in front of the basket. I didnt take that to mean that it bounced from outside the 3 point line. 5.2.1.B makes me think this is a 3 point basket by saying that in this play it is 3 regardless of whether the thrown ball was an actual try for goal. Can you shed anymore light on this for me. Thanx again.
Shawn, it doesn't matter <b>where</b> it bounces. <b>If</b> it bounces, the 3-point try is over.

The language in 5.1.1 is very explicit-- "The tap or the try for for field goal by A1 <b>ends</b> when the ball <b>touches the floor</b> but a field goal is sometimes not the result of a tap or try".

Rule 5-2-1 is also very explicit--"A ball that <b>touches the floor</b>....counts <b>two</b> points for the team into whose basket the ball is thrown".

stewcall Thu Feb 16, 2006 01:52pm

Re: J.R.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by shawn29
In 5.1.1.A A pass, a tap or a try for field goal by A1 comes down several feet in front of the basket. I didnt take that to mean that it bounced from outside the 3 point line. 5.2.1.B makes me think this is a 3 point basket by saying that in this play it is 3 regardless of whether the thrown ball was an actual try for goal. Can you shed anymore light on this for me. Thanx again.
read rule 5.2.1 a succesfule try tap or thrown ball that does not touch the FLOOR,.......... from the field by a playert who is located behind the team's own 19 foot 9 inch line counts as three.
by rule it can not be a 3 point basket
stew in VA
CVBOA

shawn29 Thu Feb 16, 2006 02:07pm

Could yall explain it one more time? J/K ive got it now. Thank you guys.

michligj Thu Feb 16, 2006 02:36pm

I don't believe that this was clearly stated in the original post, but if this happened on a throw-in, it is a violation as per rule 9-2-7.

If the thrower was inbounds, then disregard my ramblings...


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