113 points in blow-out

tjones1

I heard about it as well. In my opinion, real bad display of sportsmanship.

mick

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/basketball/2006-02-02-scoring-record_x.htm

Note: Lisa Leslie --> 101 in 1st half. 1990

rockyroad

Lisa Leslie refused to go back into the game in the second half...her coach wanted her to go in and break the record and she said no...

mick

Originally posted by rockyroad
Lisa Leslie refused to go back into the game in the second half...her coach wanted her to go in and break the record and she said no...

Oh !?!!

USA Today said "Two-time WNBA MVP Lisa Leslie scored 101 points in a half for Morningside High School in Inglewood, Calif., against South Torrance in 1990. South Torrance refused to play the second half."

The legend lives.
mick

Nate1224hoops

Originally posted by rockyroad
Lisa Leslie refused to go back into the game in the second half...her coach wanted her to go in and break the record and she said no...

Thats not what the article said. It said that the opposing team refused to come back out to play the second half. She scored 101 in the first half, why would she refuse to score 17 more to break the record. IMO bad sportsmanship line has already been crossed. No coach should let things like this happen. Had the player scored 113pts and her team won a close game that one thing, but beating a team by 100points is classless.

bgtg19

We all recognize that to score 113 points in 32 minutes is only possible (or 101 points in 16 minutes - full court press the whole half for a lay-up drill?!) with really bad opponents. There is essentially no way to look at this as an "achievement."

Poor sportsmanship to be sure.

rainmaker

Originally posted by bgtg19
There is essentially no way to look at this as an "achievement."

Absolutely true. Even the "Generals" don't have to put up with this kind of mistreatment!

rockyroad

Originally posted by mick

Originally posted by rockyroad
Lisa Leslie refused to go back into the game in the second half...her coach wanted her to go in and break the record and she said no...

Oh !?!!

USA Today said "Two-time WNBA MVP Lisa Leslie scored 101 points in a half for Morningside High School in Inglewood, Calif., against South Torrance in 1990. South Torrance refused to play the second half."

The legend lives.
mick

Interesting...I read the article about it in my local paper, and it made a point of saying that it was Leslie who refused to play in the second half. Hmmmm...just read the USA Today on on-line and it has what Mick and Nate 1224 say. Interesting...I still think it's pretty stinky to run up 137 points on a team like that - even to break a record. I wonder what that girl will think 30 or 40 years from now when she looks back on it...

JCrow

113 points might be a super achievement if your Team won by 2. But when your Team wins by 105 points, it's awful. I don't blame the HS kid...I blame the Coach. What kind of person doesn't have his 12th bench warmer in when they are up by 105?

Awful......

(Maybe I'm jealous cause I only scored a whisker over a 100 points in my HS career.)

ShadowStripes

I hope the officials had some handchecks against the team pressing. Disgraceful show of sportsmanship...

Can you imagine the public outcry if this girl, going to Rutgers, would have blown out a knee when they were up 80-85 points?

tomegun

Maybe it is poor sportsmanship for one player to score that many points, but what if there is some kind of tie-breaker that goes by winning margin against common opponents? What if one of these rules caused this coach to miss the playoffs in years past? Maybe there is more to it or maybe it is just plain bad sportsmanship.

Junker

Poor sportsmanship for sure, but this is how a lot of records are broken. At least she wasn't hitting a bunch of home runs in smaller ballparks, with more games, and on the juice.

mick

There's a lot of judgement about sportsmanship going on here.
Like Junker wrote, "Poor sportsmanship for sure, but this is how a lot of records are broken." So what?!!! Give it a rest. When records are set, very often they were recorded against a poor team.

Prince, a 5-foot-9 senior guard, led her team to a 137-32 victory over Brandeis High School. 105 points

• 1982, Miller made 46 of 50 field goals on the way to 105 points. Her Riverside Poly (Calif.) squad defeated Riverside Norte Vista, 179-15.164 points

• Lisa Leslie of Morningside HS in Inglewood California scores 101 in 1st half, South Torrance HS decides not to play 2nd half and loses 102-24. 78 points in one half.

mick

cloverdale

when i heard this the first thing i wanted to know was how many did the other team score...then i found out 32 pts...i couldn't believe how angry i got...this is simply shameful, coach and school should be taken to task for such brazen display of unsporting behavior...just want to spit nails...thanks, enough of this soap box

Nevadaref

Originally posted by mick
There's a lot of judgement about sportsmanship going on here.
Like Junker wrote, "Poor sportsmanship for sure, but this is how a lot of records are broken." So what?!!! Give it a rest. When records are set, very often they were recorded against a poor team.

Prince, a 5-foot-9 senior guard, led her team to a 137-32 victory over Brandeis High School. 105 points

• 1982, Miller made 46 of 50 field goals on the way to 105 points. Her Riverside Poly (Calif.) squad defeated Riverside Norte Vista, 179-15.164 points

• Lisa Leslie of Morningside HS in Inglewood California scores 101 in 1st half, South Torrance HS decides not to play 2nd half and loses 102-24. 78 points in one half.

mick

That was my thought too mick. Thanks for doing the research.

I did come up with a way to discourage doing this to a clearly overmatched opponent.
The idea is loosely based upon the concept used in track and field of windaided times or jumps. They win the meet, but don't qualify for the record books.

Put in some kind of provision that the NFHS only recognizes records set in competitive games. I don't know exactly how to word it, but these ridiculous blowouts don't qualify.

Dan_ref

Originally posted by Nevadaref

Originally posted by mick
There's a lot of judgement about sportsmanship going on here.
Like Junker wrote, "Poor sportsmanship for sure, but this is how a lot of records are broken." So what?!!! Give it a rest. When records are set, very often they were recorded against a poor team.

Prince, a 5-foot-9 senior guard, led her team to a 137-32 victory over Brandeis High School. 105 points

• 1982, Miller made 46 of 50 field goals on the way to 105 points. Her Riverside Poly (Calif.) squad defeated Riverside Norte Vista, 179-15.164 points

• Lisa Leslie of Morningside HS in Inglewood California scores 101 in 1st half, South Torrance HS decides not to play 2nd half and loses 102-24. 78 points in one half.

mick

That was my thought too mick. Thanks for doing the research.

I did come up with a way to discourage doing this to a clearly overmatched opponent.
The idea is loosely based upon the concept used in track and field of windaided times or jumps. They win the meet, but don't qualify for the record books.

Put in some kind of provision that the NFHS only recognizes records set in competitive games. I don't know exactly how to word it, but these ridiculous blowouts don't qualify.

Interesting concept.

How many home runs you gonna take away from Barry Bonds because he was facing a "less than competetive" pitcher?

ChuckElias

All the examples Mick gave occurred in girls' games. Anybody know if this sort of thing happens in boys' games? My guess is that if somebody tried to do it in a boys' game, the would-be record-setter would be laid out flat before he could get there.

SeanFitzRef

Originally posted by ChuckElias
All the examples Mick gave occurred in girls' games. Anybody know if this sort of thing happens in boys' games? My guess is that if somebody tried to do it in a boys' game, the would-be record-setter would be laid out flat before he could get there.

Sarcasm on
Yeah, like what happened to Kobe when he put 81 on the Raptors. Or Wilt when he dropped his 100. Those guys really got laid out!

Sarcasm off

TriggerMN

Well, there was a night a few years ago where DaJuan Wagner and some other boy both went over 100 points on the same night, in 100+ point wins for their teams. The other kid scored 18 points in the last 3 minutes while the team was up about 100 points and in a full court press.

Last year in Minnesota, a boy named Cash Eggleston scored something like 91 points in a lopsided win between two "charter" schools. He made something like 17 3-pointers in the game by continually being fed the ball. I don't know exactly what was said, but I do remember that the MSHSL discussed the matter both with the school's AD and coach, and basically scorned them for their poor sportsmanship.

Man In Blue

Had a team announce to the media that they were playing a weak team and were going to try to set a state scoring record. They scored 132 points (state record 139).

Just wrong!