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Camron Rust Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:23pm

Shall = Required.

One old example that comes to mind...Thou shall not kill. Does that give the would be killer a little wiggle room in some cases or does it meant don't kill at all. Hmm.

M&M Guy Fri Jan 20, 2006 09:37am

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
Shall = Required.

One old example that comes to mind...Thou shall not kill. Does that give the would be killer a little wiggle room in some cases or does it meant don't kill at all. Hmm.

Self-defense? ;)

Forksref Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:00am

Having had a heart attack a few years ago, I am suspicious of arterial motives!

Dan_ref Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:13am

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
Shall = Required.

One old example that comes to mind...Thou shall not kill. Does that give the would be killer a little wiggle room in some cases or does it meant don't kill at all. Hmm.

I believe it actually says thou shall not murder.

Quite a difference between kill & murder.

zebraman Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:16am

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

Quite a difference between kill & murder.

But probably not much difference to the deceased. :D

Z

M&M Guy Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:22am

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Camron Rust
Shall = Required.

One old example that comes to mind...Thou shall not kill. Does that give the would be killer a little wiggle room in some cases or does it meant don't kill at all. Hmm.

I believe it actually says thou shall not murder.

Quite a difference between kill & murder.

I certainly didn't want to get into a religious discussion (but if I did, I'd bring in race and politics as well to have a rollickin' good time!). But, I believe the commandment says "Thou shalt not kill." And our laws basically say the same, except in extremely limited situations.

Which then brings me back to the original question: are there times when you would ignore a timeout request when you know it's excessive and would result in a T? Or is granted every time? Maybe in the original sitch, with the game still undecided, it needed to be called. But what if the game was decided (15 point game, 10 seconds left)?

Dan_ref Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:27am

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Camron Rust
Shall = Required.

One old example that comes to mind...Thou shall not kill. Does that give the would be killer a little wiggle room in some cases or does it meant don't kill at all. Hmm.

I believe it actually says thou shall not murder.

Quite a difference between kill & murder.

I certainly didn't want to get into a religious discussion (but if I did, I'd bring in race and politics as well to have a rollickin' good time!). But, I believe the commandment says "Thou shalt not kill." And our laws basically say the same, except in extremely limited situations.



http://www.biblestudy.org/question/notkill.html

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Which then brings me back to the original question: are there times when you would ignore a timeout request when you know it's excessive and would result in a T? Or is granted every time? Maybe in the original sitch, with the game still undecided, it needed to be called. But what if the game was decided (15 point game, 10 seconds left)?

Thou shall grant a requested time out.

Seems clear to me.

Dan_ref Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:29am

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Originally posted by zebraman
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Originally posted by Dan_ref

Quite a difference between kill & murder.

But probably not much difference to the deceased. :D

Z

Good point.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:42am

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Thou shall grant a requested time out.

[/B][/QUOTE]Unless thou art stoned.

I think that's somewhere in the Bible too. I try to leave those kinda things up to the theologians though.


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