I haven't had to worry too much about Goaltending or Basket Interference (why am I capitalizing them!?) because, hey, let's face it, 6th grade girls don't get a lot of play above the rim! But I'll be doing some JV and Varsity boys this month in various circumstances and I suspect I'll need to know it at least once or twice. I don't need to feel 100% about every call, but I'd like to get the mechanics correct. Why is there no signal? How do I let everyone know what just happened, what the penalty is, and what happens next? What does happen next? Any help would be much appreciated...

Thanks!!

While there is no mechanic for GT or BI, you can probably use other mechanics to say what you need to say.

The most obvious are the count-the-basket (or 3-pt), and the don't-count-the-basket signals. If it's a situation where no points are awarded or cancelled, and people seem confused, it is probably best to say what the call is - BI or GT.

Best advice I received about goaltending is.... Look at the shooter....look at the basket...... if the defensive player is more than half way (closer) to the shooter than the basket it is NOT goaltending. I know this may be hard to judge at times, but at least its a start.

AK ref SE

yup
 

Got yer Fox yet? :)
mick

Re: yup
 

Actually, I do finally. I bought one a few weeks ago to have it ready for when I help officiate at my school's field day this week. (No way was I going to use a flimsy plastic-pea whistle!)

BTW, what should a Fox-40 sound like to the user? Whenever I try to blow the whistle, it sounds very squeaky and weak. Is this right, or am I doing something wrong?

Exception to this rule . . .
 

If the shooter is taller than the rim, this won't work. :)

BTW, the corollary is not necessarily true - the defender can be closer than halfway and still not have goaltending.

Attaboy!
 

Okay, then pick your "favorite" Schoolmate to go to the other end of the gym with your whistle. Sounds good, yo?
Heck, I'm left-handed and I can make 'em work.
You have fun !!! :)

mick

If you're counting it (defensive) then give a strong
basket counts signal, followed by the 3 point signal
if needed. If you're not counting it (offensive) then give
a strong no basket signal. If there's a shot clock give
the shot clock reset signal. Finally, and this is important, know the difference between BI & GT. If you get
into a discussion with the coach you certainly don't want to
tell him BI when you actually have GT. That's about it.

Other advice: watch the pregame
warmups, you'll quickly see who's going above the rim & who
ain't. Also at the JV level many dunks are blown. Be
patient, it may look ugly but the kid can blow a dunk
without BI. If you see an alley-oop coming, make sure
the ball is not caught above the cylinder (BI). And
finally (this time I mean it), don't forget GT needs to
be a on a tap or try, BI does not, which means (among other
things) that you can have BI on a throw-in but *not* GT.
Have fun, let us know how it goes.

Re: Re: yup
 

Get some air into that thing!

A little help please, Dan.

Juulie, for heavens sake, don't don't "swirl the toilet." you know, one hand cupped like a basket, the other hand stirred the bowl! :D


Dexter, blow harder! :D

While I'm looking at the table telling them to count it I'll
remind them to reset the shot clock. It's just what I like
to do, it prevents confusion. And no, it's *not* the "flush
the toilet" motion :).

BTW, Juulie, I just thought of something else to keep in
mind. 99% of these calls are made by the T (or C in 3
person). You shouldn't see it as lead, but if you do give
your partner a chance. Although in last night's 76'ers game
the lead did call a GT late in the game, so what do I know!

It has become acceptable in college and the pros for the lead to call GT. But it's still the T or C's call in high school.

BTW, good call by Bennett Slavatore. He had the perfect angle to make the call.

Yes, it was a great call.

BTW, can you believe the way the Bucks gave that game to
Philly? That dope Cassell fouls an ice cold Iverson on a
3 pointer and then talks his way into a T? Two flagrants
in the 4th qtr? These guys are having a really tough time
handling the pressure. But it's all good, I'm looking
forward to an LA-Philly finals.

I wouldn't hold my breath.
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan_ref

Quote:

I'm looking forward to an LA-Philly finals.

Sparky,
I think maybe an L.A.-L.A. final is probable. :(
mick

I thought the best thing about that GT call by Salvatore was the communication between himself and the C at the time (I think it was Ronnie Nunn)...Salvatore and Nunn had double whistles and Salvatore came off the baseline pointing at Nunn - they both called out to each other and then Salvatore gave the GT/count the basket signal...it was a great example of communication w/partner...and as far as the Finals goes, does it really matter whether Philly or Mil. wins the East - neith one of them has a chance with the way the Lakers are playing...

Mick, rockyroad,

I heard that Barkley & Dr J will be suiting up for the
finals so there's nothing to worry about...now all we gotta
do is figure out how to take 20 yrs off of each of them! ;)
...OK, maybe 30 yrs for Julius...

With the mouth that Cassell has on him, I can't believe it ttok as long as it did for him to get popped. But the comments that Salvatore made to Ray Allen were interesing. He said "I gave him enough rope." Cassell took care of the rest! :)

I'm with mick. I think LA will become the first team to ever go through the playoffs undefeated.

They are wonderful. It'll be "Showtime" again.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mick

Quote:

They are wonderful. It'll be "Showtime" again.

Hmmm, not quite sure I can say that Shaq + Kobe =
Kareem + Magic, but man they are good. Maybe they
will sweep their next 4, I just wanted to see how Iverson
does against them (I'm not so optimistic given his
performance so far vs the Bucks).

Personal Experience
 

I had two BI calls today. First I hit the whistle and gave the "basket counts" foul-type signal. Second I hit the whistle and then gave the three-point signal.

Of course, both times that I called it, the ball was 90% through (and went all the way), so people just gave me a funny look like "what was that?"

Re: Personal Experience
 

Mark,
Offensive?
Defensive?
mick

Re: Re: Personal Experience
 

Hmmm. I'm betting it was on the defense. :)

Defensive (I hope I got the shirt colors right). Both were those brush-the-net-as-the-ball-drops-through type.

If it were offensive, the players would have probably outright attacked me.

How tight do you more experineced folks call this? I've tended to let it go in the past, if it's just a brush as the ball slides through. Should I be cracking down a little?

Mark, I hope both calls were against the defense if you counted the baskets! :)

Juulie, if the ball is in tha basket and goes through, then let it go. Obviously you want a whistle if the ball doesn't go through the basket. But if the ball is going through the net uninterrupted, don't interrupt the game by making the call.

Good advice for you too, Mark.

How often?
 

Jewel,
I called my only BI a couple years ago.
I saw the rim twitch from Trail.
mick

Re: How often?
 

AT&T or MCI mick? :)

Nice Catch, Tony
 

Tony,
It was probably from C.
I know it was table side, though, maybe.... :confused:
Of course, I was nicely closed down on the shot ;)
mick

What about . . .
 

Yes, they were both on the defense.

I agree that this call should usually be passed (because the points are awarded either way.) However, something I discussed a few seasons back was end of period/game, where the whistle causes the clock to stop and lets subs in. What would you do (defensive BI, but good anyways) if:
(a) Stopping the clock benefited the defense
(a)(i) The defense purposely BI'd to stop the clock
(b) Stopping the clock benefited the offense
(c) It benefited both teams

Re: What about . . .
 

I would pass on the whistle and let play continue.

Re: Nice Catch, Tony
 

AT&T or MCI means that it sounded like a long distance call!
:)

Re: What about . . .
 

Oh man, you are thinking too much! :) Player touches the net
as the ball goes thru, let it go. You have enough to worry
about already.

I'm glad I asked this question because this weekend I needed it. I blew the call, but I learned something I would have missed if I hadn't been thinking about it. It was JV boys, too, if you can imagine. The shot went up, missed, and while it was still balancing on the rim a defender went up and tipped himself the rebound. I thought "Wait a minute... was that... " and then of course, the play was off down the court, and I could have called it back, but just brain-froze (NOT my only mistake all weekend!!) But I stashed that little picture away in my mind, and looked at it again on the next time out. It was definitely BI. So now I've learned something, which I can carry forward into my next "big" games which are tonight. Big means big for me, not that I'm so high up on the ladder.

Good advice...Thanks!!