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Rita C Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:42am

Home coach asks for 30 second timeout. I inform my partner and then turn to report the timeout to the scorekeeper. There to my left is the entire bench out 15 feet out on the floor in a huddle!

Me: Coach, you need to be over by the bench.

Coach: Not for a 30 sec time out.

Me: Yes, you do.

Coach: Not for a 30 sec timeout.

I got it taken care of but my partner wondered if there was a rule. Danged if it could be found during halftime. Finally, at home, I found 5-12-5 and 10-4-4.

Anything more?

Rita

rainmaker Thu Jan 12, 2006 01:11am

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Originally posted by Rita C
Danged if it could be found during halftime. Finally, at home, I found 5-12-5 and 10-4-4.

Anything more?

Rita

Take your books with you to games. That teachable moment is hard to re-capture!

blindzebra Thu Jan 12, 2006 02:37am

The coach is right, 1-13-3:

ART. 3 . . . The bench area shall be the area inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line, and an imaginary line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.

So unless they were in the paint, their huddle was okay.

Rita C Thu Jan 12, 2006 06:15pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by Rita C
Danged if it could be found during halftime. Finally, at home, I found 5-12-5 and 10-4-4.

Anything more?

Rita

Take your books with you to games. That teachable moment is hard to re-capture!

We tried to find it during halftime so as not to miss that teaching moment but could not.

Rita

Rita C Thu Jan 12, 2006 06:17pm

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Originally posted by blindzebra
The coach is right, 1-13-3:

ART. 3 . . . The bench area shall be the area inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line, and an imaginary line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.

So unless they were in the paint, their huddle was okay.

They were outside that box. They were nearly in front of the scorer's table and way out on the floor.

Rita

blindzebra Thu Jan 12, 2006 07:48pm

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Originally posted by Rita C
Quote:

Originally posted by blindzebra
The coach is right, 1-13-3:

ART. 3 . . . The bench area shall be the area inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line, and an imaginary line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.

So unless they were in the paint, their huddle was okay.

They were outside that box. They were nearly in front of the scorer's table and way out on the floor.

Rita

Looking for fires with a magnifying glass, can start them.;)

bob jenkins Fri Jan 13, 2006 09:48am

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Originally posted by Rita C
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Originally posted by blindzebra
The coach is right, 1-13-3:

ART. 3 . . . The bench area shall be the area inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line, and an imaginary line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.

So unless they were in the paint, their huddle was okay.

They were outside that box. They were nearly in front of the scorer's table and way out on the floor.

Rita

Depending on the gym, the coaching box (28' from the endline) can extend to "nearly in front of the scorer's table." And, in an earlier post, you indicated the team was "out 15 feet out on the floor." The nearer lane line is 22' from the sideline.

The "time out box" goes from the end-line to the end of the coaching box (28'), and from the bench to the FT line.


WhistlesAndStripes Fri Jan 13, 2006 01:47pm

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Rita C
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Originally posted by blindzebra
The coach is right, 1-13-3:

ART. 3 . . . The bench area shall be the area inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line, and an imaginary line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.

So unless they were in the paint, their huddle was okay.

They were outside that box. They were nearly in front of the scorer's table and way out on the floor.

Rita

Depending on the gym, the coaching box (28' from the endline) can extend to "nearly in front of the scorer's table." And, in an earlier post, you indicated the team was "out 15 feet out on the floor." The nearer lane line is 22' from the sideline.

The "time out box" goes from the end-line to the end of the coaching box (28'), and from the bench to the FT line.


How do you know which end of the coaching box this is talking about? The rule quoted isn't clear.

blindzebra Fri Jan 13, 2006 03:06pm

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Originally posted by Whistles & Stripes
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Rita C
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Originally posted by blindzebra
The coach is right, 1-13-3:

ART. 3 . . . The bench area shall be the area inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line, and an imaginary line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.

So unless they were in the paint, their huddle was okay.

They were outside that box. They were nearly in front of the scorer's table and way out on the floor.

Rita

Depending on the gym, the coaching box (28' from the endline) can extend to "nearly in front of the scorer's table." And, in an earlier post, you indicated the team was "out 15 feet out on the floor." The nearer lane line is 22' from the sideline.

The "time out box" goes from the end-line to the end of the coaching box (28'), and from the bench to the FT line.


How do you know which end of the coaching box this is talking about? The rule quoted isn't clear.

Common sense.

Why would the rule force them OUT of the coaching box during a timeout?

It clearly means the 28' line to the end line, to the near lane line.

bob jenkins Fri Jan 13, 2006 03:44pm

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Originally posted by Whistles & Stripes
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Rita C
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Originally posted by blindzebra
The coach is right, 1-13-3:

ART. 3 . . . The bench area shall be the area inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line, and an imaginary line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.

So unless they were in the paint, their huddle was okay.

They were outside that box. They were nearly in front of the scorer's table and way out on the floor.

Rita

Depending on the gym, the coaching box (28' from the endline) can extend to "nearly in front of the scorer's table." And, in an earlier post, you indicated the team was "out 15 feet out on the floor." The nearer lane line is 22' from the sideline.

The "time out box" goes from the end-line to the end of the coaching box (28'), and from the bench to the FT line.


How do you know which end of the coaching box this is talking about? The rule quoted isn't clear.

Because if it was the end of the coache box nearer the endline, you wouldn't need the "imaginary line extended from the FT lane line" language -- you'd just use the "FT lane line part of the reference.

hooper Fri Jan 13, 2006 04:06pm

Have any of you seen the Georgia women's Div 1 team during time-outs? They bring chairs out onto the court (roughly half way between the side line and near side of the key). I'm assuming Andy wants to get them away from the noisy crowd, but I've never seen this called as a violation.

Jayzer Fri Jan 13, 2006 04:31pm

30 sec. time out.
 
Try as I can, I have a real problem drawing this area the team is entitled too.
Can someone help.

RookieDude Fri Jan 13, 2006 07:06pm

Re: 30 sec. time out.
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jayzer
Try as I can, I have a real problem drawing this area the team is entitled too.
Can someone help.
[/Quot

BENCH
__________________________________________________ _________

[
[ 30 sec TO
[ Area
[
[ Endline>>>>>>
[______________
[
[Free Throw Line
[
[______________
That's a quicky drawing...how's that?

Edit: It didn't turn out like I thought it would..sorry

[Edited by RookieDude on Jan 13th, 2006 at 07:09 PM]

bob jenkins Sat Jan 14, 2006 09:56am

Re: 30 sec. time out.
 
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Originally posted by Jayzer
Try as I can, I have a real problem drawing this area the team is entitled too.
Can someone help.

I tried the same drawing as RookieDude, but it didn't work out, either.

Maybe different words will help:

The four sides of the TO area are:

1) The bench
2) The endline
3) The nearer FT lane line, extended toward the division line
4) The 28' mark, extended toward the opposite sideline




Rich Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:09am

Quote:

Originally posted by Rita C
Home coach asks for 30 second timeout. I inform my partner and then turn to report the timeout to the scorekeeper. There to my left is the entire bench out 15 feet out on the floor in a huddle!

Me: Coach, you need to be over by the bench.

Coach: Not for a 30 sec time out.

Me: Yes, you do.

Coach: Not for a 30 sec timeout.

I got it taken care of but my partner wondered if there was a rule. Danged if it could be found during halftime. Finally, at home, I found 5-12-5 and 10-4-4.

Anything more?

Rita

Why would you even feel the need to address this? It's only 30 seconds.


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