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blewthat

Fri Dec 23, 2005 08:53am

always wondering what the default rule should be when a foul or violation occurs in the grey area, on the border where it could be taken out of bounds on the side or on the baseline. The spot just inside the three point line on the sides or just outside the paint but not in the free-throw half-circle;

what should be a refs default rule when it could go either way, sideline or baseline?

Nevadaref

Fri Dec 23, 2005 08:58am

Try to picture that diagonal line in diagram 21 from page 3 of the officials manual as best you can on the floor and use that. The real close ones are judgment calls.

blewthat

Fri Dec 23, 2005 09:01am

I am talking about what to do on the real close ones where I could go either way and be right

what should be my default in those situations and why?

I am picturing the triangle and then imagining the calls that are right on the edge of the triangle

Nevadaref

Fri Dec 23, 2005 09:18am

If in your opinion the play is truly right on where that line would be, then I advise doing the following:

1. If you are Trail or Center and you make the call then put the throw-in spot on the sideline.

2. If you are the Lead and make the call, then put the throw-in on the end line.

This gives a stronger appearance that the official is calling in their primary area of coverage.

MdSooner

Fri Dec 23, 2005 09:29am

Weather it's right or not, in our Assoc. we have decided that anything that happnes inside the 3 point line - it's going baseline.

All the coaches no this and accept it.

Nevadaref

Fri Dec 23, 2005 09:31am

Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by MdSooner
Weather it's right or not, in our Assoc. we have decided that anything that happnes inside the 3 point line - it's going baseline.

All the coaches no this and accept it.

All the coaches say, "No" to this? ;)

Jimgolf

Fri Dec 23, 2005 09:37am

Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by Nevadaref

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Originally posted by MdSooner
Weather it's right or not, in our Assoc. we have decided that anything that happnes inside the 3 point line - it's going baseline.

All the coaches no this and accept it.

All the coaches say, "No" to this? ;)

Yes, because it causes happnes. :)

M&M Guy

Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:28am

Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by Jimgolf

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Originally posted by Nevadaref

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Originally posted by MdSooner
Weather it's right or not, in our Assoc. we have decided that anything that happnes inside the 3 point line - it's going baseline.

All the coaches no this and accept it.

All the coaches say, "No" to this? ;)

Yes, because it causes happnes. :)

Obviously Mr. Grammar Guy's interns are into the egg nog. What does the weather have to do with whether a throw-in goes baseline or not?

Dan_ref

Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:25am

Re: Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by M&M Guy

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Originally posted by Jimgolf

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Originally posted by Nevadaref

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Originally posted by MdSooner
Weather it's right or not, in our Assoc. we have decided that anything that happnes inside the 3 point line - it's going baseline.

All the coaches no this and accept it.

All the coaches say, "No" to this? ;)

Yes, because it causes happnes. :)

Obviously Mr. Grammar Guy's interns are into the egg nog. What does the weather have to do with whether a throw-in goes baseline or not?

Are you kidding?

During summer leagues if I'm working a court near an open door every single throw-in is going to be as close to that door as possible.

No wonder you aren't working any college hackey-sack conferences... :rolleyes:

M&M Guy

Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:31am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

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Originally posted by M&M Guy

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Originally posted by Jimgolf

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Originally posted by Nevadaref

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Originally posted by MdSooner
Weather it's right or not, in our Assoc. we have decided that anything that happnes inside the 3 point line - it's going baseline.

All the coaches no this and accept it.

All the coaches say, "No" to this? ;)

Yes, because it causes happnes. :)

Obviously Mr. Grammar Guy's interns are into the egg nog. What does the weather have to do with whether a throw-in goes baseline or not?

Are you kidding?

During summer leagues if I'm working a court near an open door every single throw-in is going to be as close to that door as possible.

No wonder you aren't working any college hackey-sack conferences... :rolleyes:

Hey! What if I really don't WANT to work those conferences? What if I'm happy staying in the leagues I'm in? (Although, I'll have to admit, 10% of time I think otherwise.)

Oh, btw blewthat - Nevada has the right idea; if you blew the whistle, put it in play along your line.

Now, who's got that egg nog?...

Jurassic Referee

Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:46am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by M&M Guy

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

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Originally posted by M&M Guy

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Originally posted by Jimgolf

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Originally posted by Nevadaref

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Originally posted by MdSooner
Weather it's right or not, in our Assoc. we have decided that anything that happnes inside the 3 point line - it's going baseline.

All the coaches no this and accept it.

All the coaches say, "No" to this? ;)

Sigh....

Yes, because it causes happnes. :)

Obviously Mr. Grammar Guy's interns are into the egg nog. What does the weather have to do with whether a throw-in goes baseline or not?

Are you kidding?

During summer leagues if I'm working a court near an open door every single throw-in is going to be as close to that door as possible.

No wonder you aren't working any college hackey-sack conferences... :rolleyes:

Hey! What if I really don't WANT to work those conferences? What if I'm happy staying in the leagues I'm in? (Although, I'll have to admit, 10% of time I think otherwise.)

Oh, btw blewthat - Nevada has the right idea; if you blew the whistle, put it in play along your line.

Now, who's got that egg nog?...

Sigh.....

What a buncha goobers. You adminster the throw-in at the closest spot to the cheerleaders.

M&M Guy

Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:53am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Sigh.....

What a buncha goobers. You adminster the throw-in at the closest spot to the cheerleaders.

Why? Do they have the egg nog?

BktBallRef

Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:59am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
Hey! What if I really don't WANT to work those conferences? What if I'm happy staying in the leagues I'm in? (Although, I'll have to admit, 10% of time I think otherwise.)

That's total BS! You should WANT to work ALL conferences!

Dan_ref

Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:03pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by BktBallRef

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
Hey! What if I really don't WANT to work those conferences? What if I'm happy staying in the leagues I'm in? (Although, I'll have to admit, 10% of time I think otherwise.)

That's total BS! You should WANT to work ALL conferences!

We all know he WANTS to be working the major D1 lawn darts leagues...he just can't accept the fact that he aint good enough to get in.

Denial is more than a river in Egypt ya know.

M&M Guy

Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:17pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

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Originally posted by BktBallRef

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
Hey! What if I really don't WANT to work those conferences? What if I'm happy staying in the leagues I'm in? (Although, I'll have to admit, 10% of time I think otherwise.)

That's total BS! You should WANT to work ALL conferences!

We all know he WANTS to be working the major D1 lawn darts leagues...he just can't accept the fact that he aint good enough to get in.

Denial is more than a river in Egypt ya know.

This may be only my fifth week, but I definitely got it goin' on in lawn darts. I can handle it, I just choose not to. Besides, I didn't know they had an Egyptian league - I wouldn't think the sand can hold up the darts long enough to count the points?

Dan_ref

Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:19pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by M&M Guy

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

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Originally posted by BktBallRef

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
Hey! What if I really don't WANT to work those conferences? What if I'm happy staying in the leagues I'm in? (Although, I'll have to admit, 10% of time I think otherwise.)

That's total BS! You should WANT to work ALL conferences!

We all know he WANTS to be working the major D1 lawn darts leagues...he just can't accept the fact that he aint good enough to get in.

Denial is more than a river in Egypt ya know.

This may be only my fifth week, but I definitely got it goin' on in lawn darts. I can handle it, I just choose not to. Besides, I didn't know they had an Egyptian league - I wouldn't think the sand can hold up the darts long enough to count the points?

Well, you can always come here with the rest of the out of shape officials looking for respect.

johnny1784

Sat Dec 24, 2005 01:12am

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Originally posted by blewthat
always wondering what the default rule should be when a foul or violation occurs in the grey area, on the border where it could be taken out of bounds on the side or on the baseline. The spot just inside the three point line on the sides or just outside the paint but not in the free-throw half-circle;

what should be a refs default rule when it could go either way, sideline or baseline?

Actual term for the boundary lines adjacent with each basket should be called "end line".

Mark Dexter

Mon Dec 26, 2005 02:32pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh, Mr. Spelling Guy...

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

What a buncha goobers. You adminster the throw-in at the closest spot to the cheerleaders.

I have to disagree - you administer the throw-in at the spot from where you have the best view of the cheerleaders.

Unless you're reffing a game in the . . . wait for it . . . SEC.

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