Last night, I did my best. I was working with a guy that was new....

33 seconds left. Dead quiet. Team A's gym. Team A ahead by 1. A1 shooting the Double Bonus. As A1 was preparing to shoot, B1 who occupied the first lane space bends over. The poor kid had a glass eye. It fell out and bounced in the middle of the lane. Al you could hear was, "CLICK...CLIck....click". I closed my fist to signal - "disconcertion of the shooter". A1 airmailed the freethrow. At roughly the same time, the eye rolled across the lane to A2 who kicked it across the court towards Team A's Bench. I immediately blew an Unsportsmanlike Technical on A2 who I was preparing to throw out of the game. But before I could do that.....Coach A gets up from the bench to pick up the glass eye rolling toward him. My partner had ejected Team A's Assistant Coach in the first period. The Coach caught a T in the third period for arguing a 3 second call. So Coach A has to be glued to the bench. When he got up to catch the eye.....my partner called another technical on him for leaving the bench. Thus, leaving Team A with no Coach for the last 33 seconds. We tried to explain to the Table why Team B had just won the game on a forfeit but by then the fans were pretty upset.

My only question is, should my partner have cut Coach A a break on catching the glass eye? I just think the guy was trying to be helpful.

WOW
 

I hoenesty think that if I was reffing this I would retire. Nothing else to say but WOW!

This has to be true. Nobody could make up a story that weird.

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Don't worry - JCrow "retired" many years ago. I'm just surprised the nurses at his facility let him use the computer.

Obviously there were too many eyes on A's coach. I would've let it go, unless the coach tossed it to your partner and told him he thought he might need it...

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I might too....but I'd have kept an eye out for it though..........

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What did the prostitute with 1 glass eye say to her favorite customer?

I'll take "Stupid bar jokes" for 200, Alex.

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Umm, in that case, it's "This is what the prostitute with one eye said to her favorite customer"

And, ok, I'll bite.

No, that's not my guess. I mean, what's the answer?

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OK, here's the short form of stupid joke:

A man goes to a house of ill repute (abbrev HOIR, let's just call it a HOIRhouse...) and there's only 1 HOIR worker available, an old woman with a glass eye. After a while the guy sez OK and goes in with her. She then proceeds to take out her eye and invites the man to partake. After some initial doubt he is amazed to find the experience quite rewarding and well worth the money. As he leaves he tells her so and she replies "Well, come back any time, I'll keep an eye out for you".

To be serious about your question...since nobody else appears to be...what would have happened if when you saw the eye, you'd have whistled the ball dead, got the eye situation fixed and re-administered the free throws?

No, violation on a kid that really, did not violate, IMO.

No T on A2 for possibly just being freaked out, I know I'd be weirded out by an eye rolling at me, so was kicking it really an unsporting act? Heck they might not have even known what it was, they may have thought someone had thrown something on the floor.

No T on a coach for picking up the poor kid's eye. Really was this within the spirit and intent of the rules?

Glass Eye rolling across the floor?

Was it considered jewlery?
Did it have an improper team or NBA Logo on it?
Did it roll off the floor for unauthorized reasons?

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Didn't they make that into a sitcom?

<b>"Just Another Day At The Orifice"</b>

A coach once told me, "There's no 'I' in Team." I realize now that he meant "eye."

Eye-yi-yi.......

Or......Eye Vey.....

Game management from the host school should have been notified. Sounds like they were having trouble controlling the other school's pupils..........

:)

My partner who is kind of crass, said to the kid,

"Put that eye back in and this time.....try to keep a lid on it."

This has to be the weirdest post I have ever read!! BUT, to be serious for a minute, How could you call disconcertion on the free throw? Hes not doing it on purpose to bother the shooter. I think all this trouble started with you! If you just would have been a little more "not by the book" and called for your time before the free throw, had the coach or the kid in question pick up the eye, all of this would have been avoided. Then to top off the situation, you end the game on T's which should not have happened in the first place. WOW!!

chrs_schuster,
I'll see that WOW and raise you two.
;)
mick

Artificial eyes are illegal anyway. They're a head decoration, as per R3-5-2. The player should have been directed to leave the game.

Couldn't you see your way clear to let them play if they have a letter from the state association?

I admit my calling "disconcertion" on the kid with a glass eye started the whole mess but I distinctly saw him fussing with his eye socket prior to the eye hitting the floor. I thought it was premeditated eye removal.

I learned after the fact that his Coach regularly uses this as a ploy in tight games. I feel really bad as this highly unsportsmanlike tatic worked PERFECTLY and through a series of unfortunate events won the game for the Glass Eye Team.

I'm reffing this Team again later in the week and I plan on making the Coach tape the eye in place before the kid enters the court.

Sounds like we need to petition the NFHS for a rule change. It's now a technical foul if you remove your pants or shirt within the visual confines of the playing area. They should make removing an eye in the visual confines a technical foul too. Or, if the officials hesitate to call that a "T", you could make it a violation instead- something like "A player shall not have an eye out for an unauthorized reason".

Good eyedea.

But, once he removes it, isn't it then outside the "visual confines"?

We'll need some case book plays to clarify the new rule imo. For instance:

A1, who has a glass eye, sets a screen for A2. As A1 then rolls to the basket his glass eye falls out, freeing him from defender B1 who slips on the glass eye. Undefended A1 recieves A2's pass and makes an easy layup. In this play a) the glass eye accidentally fell out b) A1 plucked the eye out on his own volition c) A2 smacked the back of A1's head causing the eye to fall out d) coach A rolled a handful of marbles across the floor in an effort to decieve.

Your rulings please.

My ruling in d) eye before e except after c.

There's sc<B>ie</B>nce on the n<B>ei</B>ghbor's c<B>ei</B>ling

Sounds like you need to go look that over.

And, when you get back - shut up.

:D

You can forget that donut I was gonna email you for Christmas.

:p That's ok, I'm waiting for Chuck's donut to arrive.

Don't laugh. In the late 60's Slippery Rock College had a Center with a prostheysis arm. The kid had an artificial arm from his elbow down. During games he would take it off on defense and hold it in his other hand to block shots. It gave him a 10'-6" standing reach. As I remember, he and Artis Gilmore were leading the Nation in shot-blocks through December. The NCAA acted in mid-season to outlaw the action which institigated a slew of lawsuits from people with one arm. You don't hear much about it because the NCAA settled out of court. The next year, the kid flunked out and there's been an "Artifical Device Rule" since.

Uh, I think I'll overlook you.

Yeah....
http://www.forumspile.com/STFU-Sit_down.jpg

Then w<B>ei</B>gh yourself.

I'm afreid to.

Voting to close this segment!

Votes taken: the EYES have it!

Thread adjourned!