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jdccpa Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:39am

Could someone explain the new mechanic as outlined in NFHS Officials Manual para. 218c regarding OOB situations in the backcourt where there is a reverse in the direction of play.

It seems to say that old trail administers the OOB and the old lead goes the length of the court to be the new lead?

[Edited by jdccpa on Dec 15th, 2005 at 10:49 AM]

zebraman Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:01am

The trail handles all throw-ins in backcourt. That is simple.

In front court, whomever is responsible for the line would handle the throw-in.

The way they wrote that makes it seem more complicated than it is. Let's say team A is bringing the ball out of their backcourt. If it gets tipped out of bounds, the trail will administer regardless of which sideline it went out of bounds on. Simple Simon.

If B steals it in Team A's backcourt, you are now in B's frontcourt. If it goes out of bounds, the official who is responsible for the sideline that it went out on will administer. That might be the lead or it might be the trail.

Z

[Edited by zebraman on Dec 15th, 2005 at 11:04 AM]

truerookie Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:30am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by zebraman
[B]The trail handles all throw-ins in backcourt. That is simple.



the trail will administer regardless of which sideline it went out of bounds on. So, if it goes oob on the opposite the trail. The T'will come across the court to administer the throw-in or should the L be continously looking over the shoulder to watch its sideline responsibility? The is just a question so I can understand this better myself



truerookie

zebraman Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:38am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by truerookie
[B]
Quote:

Originally posted by zebraman
The trail handles all throw-ins in backcourt. That is simple.



the trail will administer regardless of which sideline it went out of bounds on. So, if it goes oob on the opposite the trail. The T'will come across the court to administer the throw-in or should the L be continously looking over the shoulder to watch its sideline responsibility? The is just a question so I can understand this better myself



truerookie

Not sure I understand the question, but I'll proceed as if I do. Yes, in B/C the trail will administer no matter what sideline the ball went out on. But the trail is NOT responsible for the far sideline. So if the ball went out-of-bounds on the sideline which is opposite from the trail, the lead would signal the out-of-bounds violation and point to the inbounds spot. The trail would then go over and administer.

Z

truerookie Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:16pm

Quote:

Originally posted by jdccpa
Could someone explain the new mechanic as outlined in NFHS Officials Manual para. 218c regarding OOB situations in the backcourt where there is a reverse in the direction of play.

It seems to say that old trail administers the OOB and the old lead goes the length of the court to be the new lead?

[Edited by jdccpa on Dec 15th, 2005 at 10:49 AM]

ok, I think I know the situation.You are talking about if there is a foul in the backcourt and there are no FT's. Trail is tableside and lead is opposite the table.

Situation: Team B who is in its frontcourt commits a team-control foul against A below the free throw line extended. The trail who is table side will report the foul thus, causing it to become the new T after administering the throw-in. The lead who is opposite the table will go the length of the court. This is what the situation is describing.


jritchie Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by jdccpa
Could someone explain the new mechanic as outlined in NFHS Officials Manual para. 218c regarding OOB situations in the backcourt where there is a reverse in the direction of play.

It seems to say that old trail administers the OOB and the old lead goes the length of the court to be the new lead?

[Edited by jdccpa on Dec 15th, 2005 at 10:49 AM]

that is what is says, if it was A's back court, b steals and then it goes out of bounds on new leads side, because they are responsible for that line, they will come up and be new trail and the old lead that went to new trail before the ball went out of bounds goes back to new lead on the opposite end of the court...that was a mouth full!! :) So if it's on your side in frontcourt, you take it out... Now if it goes out on the other side of the new lead, the new trail will call it and will come and administer the throw in and will stay trail...two different situations depending on where the ball goes out of bounds!!!

johnny1784 Thu Dec 15, 2005 04:09pm

Quote:

Originally posted by jritchie
Quote:

Originally posted by jdccpa
Could someone explain the new mechanic as outlined in NFHS Officials Manual para. 218c regarding OOB situations in the backcourt where there is a reverse in the direction of play.

It seems to say that old trail administers the OOB and the old lead goes the length of the court to be the new lead?

[Edited by jdccpa on Dec 15th, 2005 at 10:49 AM]

that is what is says, if it was A's back court, b steals and then it goes out of bounds on new leads side, because they are responsible for that line, they will come up and be new trail and the old lead that went to new trail before the ball went out of bounds goes back to new lead on the opposite end of the court...that was a mouth full!! :) So if it's on your side in frontcourt, you take it out... Now if it goes out on the other side of the new lead, the new trail will call it and will come and administer the throw in and will stay trail...two different situations depending on where the ball goes out of bounds!!!

IMO, 2-person mechanics should always "bump". Why have the old lead run down the entire length of the court to become the new lead when it is faster and less foot mileage to "bump" and keep same positions for an OOB throw-in?


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