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PIAA REF Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:01am

Well I had my first T of the season. It was a slow day for basketball as there was only 1 varsity game in the area so I took a 9th grade boys game. The kid from the home team mande a nice block on a shot. Then he proceeded to say get that sh!t out of here. Well I whacked him. Anyway I went and reported it and the coach asked me what happened. I told him what the kid said and then said and I don't think he was talking about a constipation problem!
Have a good one

Terrapins Fan Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:05pm

4 games, no "T's"
 
My goal is Zero for the year..... Never going to happen, but maybe I can do it one step at a time...I mean one game at a time....This is year number 6 for me. Year 1 I gave away 4 "T's" same for years 2, 3 & 4. But something terrible happened in year 5. I gave away 7 "T's". Some of you know I coached for 11 years before I became a ref. I love refereeing. When I coached, I hated referees, but I always treated them with respect. Not the case now-a-days...No respect for anyone. I also most gave away a "T" last night and tonight, but it's too early in the season... for me.... Maybe after Christmas....Zero....never going to happen......

ChrisSportsFan Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:09pm

I had to issue one in game #3 already. It was clear and everyone in the gym knew the kid earned it. Not a peep from his coach who saw it coming and already had a sub at the table. Now I'm thru game #8 and still holding.

ChuckElias Wed Dec 07, 2005 09:15am

Re: 4 games, no
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Terrapins Fan
Year 1 I gave away 4 "T's" same for years 2, 3 & 4. But something terrible happened in year 5. I gave away 7 "T's".
You don't "give away" T's. Coaches and players earn them. Don't beat yourself up b/c of them. They are simply a part of the game. If a coach crosses a line, bang. Oh well.

Now, if you're throwing 40 T's a season, that's another story. Maybe you have some game management issues. :) But personally, I don't think it's realistic or necessary to have a goal of 0 T's for the season.

Hartsy Wed Dec 07, 2005 09:46am

I don't set out with a goal of no T's, nor do I shy away from them. Just part of the game to me. It's nice not to have to use them, however.

It could be dumb luck, good game management, or a thick skin, but I've worked two full seasons, beginning a third, and my only T's were last summer in "scrimmages".

tomegun Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:07am

Good advice Chuck. The goal should be to handle every situation appropriately.

Junker Wed Dec 07, 2005 02:09pm

I agree Chuck, that's the way to look at it. I always say that I don't give T's, I assess them when they are asked for. So far this year, I have not had tho call any. Also, I'm working a better (all varsity on varsity nights) schedule. I'm not sure if my mangagement is better or if I'm getting smarter players and coaches.

ref18 Wed Dec 07, 2005 03:39pm

Re: 4 games, no
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Terrapins Fan
My goal is Zero for the year..... Never going to happen, but maybe I can do it one step at a time...I mean one game at a time....This is year number 6 for me. Year 1 I gave away 4 "T's" same for years 2, 3 & 4. But something terrible happened in year 5. I gave away 7 "T's". Some of you know I coached for 11 years before I became a ref. I love refereeing. When I coached, I hated referees, but I always treated them with respect. Not the case now-a-days...No respect for anyone. I also most gave away a "T" last night and tonight, but it's too early in the season... for me.... Maybe after Christmas....Zero....never going to happen......
THat's my goal too, and I think it might happen.
I moved during the off-season, and my new association requires me to report every T I give, and I hate writing reports, so I guess I won't be calling any T's. :D

jforgues Wed Dec 07, 2005 05:16pm

I've got a funny story about a T to a player as well.

13-yr old kid under the basket shoots, and then yells at me "that was a f* foul". So I T him up.

Coaches asked me, what did he say. So, I tell him.

Few minutes later, coaches comes to me and says "the kid told me that he never said anything". I reply "I guess it's my word against his then".

Jean

Terrapins Fan Wed Dec 07, 2005 06:51pm

Give Aways....
 
I think of the "T's" as my children. I like to keep them to myself, but sometimes, I have to "give" them away. I don't have a lot of children and you have to earn them, but if you earn one, I will give it to you.

Here's my thoughts on giving coaches "T's"-

If you are losing and I give you a "T", sit down, shut up becaus eyou aren't getting a second one.

If you are winning, and I give you a "T" sit down, shut up or you will get a 2nd one....

Dan_ref Wed Dec 07, 2005 07:03pm

Re: Give Aways....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Terrapins Fan
I think of the "T's" as my children. I like to keep them to myself, but sometimes, I have to "give" them away. I don't have a lot of children and you have to earn them, but if you earn one, I will give it to you.

Here's my thoughts on giving coaches "T's"-

If you are losing and I give you a "T", sit down, shut up becaus eyou aren't getting a second one.

If you are winning, and I give you a "T" sit down, shut up or you will get a 2nd one....

I think of T's as your children also.

Just another call in a long line of calls, no biggie.


Jurassic Referee Wed Dec 07, 2005 07:32pm

Re: Give Aways....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Terrapins Fan
If you are losing and I give you a "T", sit down, shut up becaus you aren't getting a second one.

If you are winning, and I give you a "T" sit down, shut up or you will get a 2nd one....

Whaaaaat? :confused:

Are you telling me that you won't give a losing coach a second T no matter how bad their behavior is? Are you also telling me that you're gonna treat the winning and losing coaches differently?

That's just wrong.

Completely wrong.


WhistlesAndStripes Wed Dec 07, 2005 07:35pm

Re: Re: Give Aways....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Terrapins Fan
If you are losing and I give you a "T", sit down, shut up becaus you aren't getting a second one.

If you are winning, and I give you a "T" sit down, shut up or you will get a 2nd one....

Whaaaaat? :confused:

Are you telling me that you won't give a losing coach a second T no matter how bad their behavior is? Are you also telling me that you're gonna treat the winning and losing coaches differently?

That's just wrong.

Completely wrong.


I think what he's saying is, after whacking the coach that is losing, is "If I have to stay here and suffer through this crappy game, so do you."

rainmaker Wed Dec 07, 2005 07:37pm

Re: Re: Give Aways....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Terrapins Fan
If you are losing and I give you a "T", sit down, shut up becaus you aren't getting a second one.

If you are winning, and I give you a "T" sit down, shut up or you will get a 2nd one....

Whaaaaat? :confused:

Are you telling me that you won't give a losing coach a second T no matter how bad their behavior is? Are you also telling me that you're gonna treat the winning and losing coaches differently?

That's just wrong.

Completely wrong.


Uh-oh, T-fan. You've done it now. Hasn't anyone told you not to wake up the bear in the winter? The roaring and snarling are terrifying indeed, and someone always ends up getting eaten. It won't be me, though, I'm running and hiding.

caliref Wed Dec 07, 2005 07:47pm

Longtime reader, first time poster here.

You have to remember that a Technical Foul is just like any other foul. You call them because somebody broke the rules. Try to not let emotions get in the way of calling these. I know people thing of the T as a big weapon, but it is meant to control the game, the players, and the coaches.

So far this season, I have had players use profanity on three ocasions right in front of me. If I can see them use it, they are going to get a T.

I had a bench that was heckling the other team that they were beating by 40 points. Coach got a warning, then the bench got a T.

Remember, sportsmanship is a POI in the FED rulebook this year.


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