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tjones1 Sun Dec 04, 2005 01:35am

This time on the men's side.

Dunk occured late in the game. The ball did not drop through the net completely, ball came back out. Official blew the play dead very quickly and counted the basket. I saw the play live and didn't feel like it should have been counted, jmo of course. Your thoughts?

tjones1 Sun Dec 04, 2005 01:49am

One more thing, although I know it's near impossible to know exactly. The C after a throw-in called a shot clock violation, however the shot clock showed 3 seconds remaining. What's odd is that they were using the PTS system and I assumed that the game clock and shot clock would go on the same push of the button. Is this correct? Thanks again.

JRutledge Sun Dec 04, 2005 02:01am

The ball has to go completely through the netting to be counted as a basket. The official got it wrong. The situation you described actually happened twice in the NCAA Men's Tournament last March.

Peace

bob jenkins Sun Dec 04, 2005 09:53am

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Originally posted by tjones1
One more thing, although I know it's near impossible to know exactly. The C after a throw-in called a shot clock violation, however the shot clock showed 3 seconds remaining. What's odd is that they were using the PTS system and I assumed that the game clock and shot clock would go on the same push of the button. Is this correct? Thanks again.
It depends on how the shotclock is wired into the game clock. In some systems, the shot clock won't run unless the game clock is also running. The shot clock operator shuold leve the shot clock "on" and just use the reset button when needed. In other systems, the two clocks are completely independent. The shot clock operator needs to stop the clock on a whiste, and restart it when the ball is inbounded.


Camron Rust Sun Dec 04, 2005 01:32pm

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Originally posted by tjones1
This time on the men's side.

Dunk occured late in the game. The ball did not drop through the net completely, ball came back out. Official blew the play dead very quickly and counted the basket. I saw the play live and didn't feel like it should have been counted, jmo of course. Your thoughts?

Was it possible that it bounced off of a defender who was just under the net? If not, it shouldn't have counted.

tjones1 Sun Dec 04, 2005 02:22pm

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
Quote:

Originally posted by tjones1
This time on the men's side.

Dunk occured late in the game. The ball did not drop through the net completely, ball came back out. Official blew the play dead very quickly and counted the basket. I saw the play live and didn't feel like it should have been counted, jmo of course. Your thoughts?

Was it possible that it bounced off of a defender who was just under the net? If not, it shouldn't have counted.

Not that I recall.

tjones1 Mon Dec 05, 2005 09:45am

Would this be the same ruling for Fed?

Jurassic Referee Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:09am

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Originally posted by tjones1
Would this be the same ruling for Fed?
Yup, the ball has to remain in or go completely through the "basket" to count. The net is part of the "basket".


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