Disconcerting the free thrower?

ChuckElias

Originally posted by buckrog64
chit chat back and forth amongst the opposing players...

Chit chat is really hard to judge. As others have pointed out in the past, basketball is not golf. If the defensive players want to confirm defensive match-ups or what play will be run next, I think that's legitimate and a FT shooter should be able to take a shot without being distracted by it.

If the chit chat is directed at the free thrower, that's a different matter. Or if it gets louder just as the shot is released. Or if the raised arms are shaking in the shooter's vision. Those things are no-no's.

CA BBall Ref

How about where the kids raise their arms and "wiggle" their fingers either at the shooter or just straight up. I have seen players told to stop & told it was OK? Any thoughts?

ChuckElias

Originally posted by CA BBall Ref
How about where the kids raise their arms and "wiggle" their fingers either at the shooter or just straight up. I have seen players told to stop & told it was OK? Any thoughts?

Make 'em stop. If they want to raise their arms to get ready for the rebound, fine. Wiggling does not help their rebounding. It's strictly for the shooter's distraction.

Jurassic Referee

Originally posted by CA BBall Ref
How about where the kids raise their arms and "wiggle" their fingers either at the shooter or just straight up. I have seen players told to stop & told it was OK? Any thoughts?

I think that it's disconcertion as per case book play 9.1.5SitA.

Rev.Ref63

I've had more trouble with the cheerleaders on the baseline disconcerting the shooter than I have the players.

They may not shout and yell, but they often raise their arms and wiggle their fingers or their pom-poms.

CA BBall Ref

Chherleader are always a problem. They will normally "Part" the lane but they never want to hold still. Should we require them to be still during free throws when they have parted the lane but are on the O.B. side of the floor not in the stands?

rainmaker

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Originally posted by CA BBall Ref
How about where the kids raise their arms and "wiggle" their fingers either at the shooter or just straight up. I have seen players told to stop & told it was OK? Any thoughts?
Make 'em stop. If they want to raise their arms to get ready for the rebound, fine. Wiggling does not help their rebounding. It's strictly for the shooter's distraction.

No, no Chuck. Where's that famous chick-empathy thing of yours? the wiggling fingers is to sprinkle good luck on their team mates, and bad luck on their opponents. Just in general. Nothing to do with the shooting of the free throws. It's an extension of the cheerleaders who do it to sprinkle "good thoughts".

Nevadaref

The opposing team members on the bench all stomping their feet is another example of disconcertion.

There is no requirement for the cheerleaders to remain quiet or stay still during FTs. There is something in a cheer manual about not standing directly under the basket along the end line, but since it is not a rule in the BASKETBALL RULES BOOK, I don't believe that it should be enforced. I've never read or even seen the cheer manual, but I think that Tony has one and has quoted this bit on the forum before.

bob jenkins

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Originally posted by CA BBall Ref
How about where the kids raise their arms and "wiggle" their fingers either at the shooter or just straight up. I have seen players told to stop & told it was OK? Any thoughts?
I think that it's disconcertion as per case book play 9.1.5SitA.

The case book says that it MAY be disconcertion, not that it IS disconcertion.

Jurassic Referee

Originally posted by bob jenkins

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Originally posted by CA BBall Ref
How about where the kids raise their arms and "wiggle" their fingers either at the shooter or just straight up. I have seen players told to stop & told it was OK? Any thoughts?
I think that it's disconcertion as per case book play 9.1.5SitA.

The case book says that it MAY be disconcertion, not that it IS disconcertion.

I agree. I still THINK that it IS disconcertion usually however. They quit or they get called. Jmo.

ChuckElias

Originally posted by rainmaker
the wiggling fingers is to sprinkle good luck on their team mates, and bad luck on their opponents.

If they have wings and/or magic wands, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt from now on. Otherwise, knock it off. 🙂

bob jenkins

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Originally posted by bob jenkins

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Originally posted by CA BBall Ref
How about where the kids raise their arms and "wiggle" their fingers either at the shooter or just straight up. I have seen players told to stop & told it was OK? Any thoughts?
I think that it's disconcertion as per case book play 9.1.5SitA.

The case book says that it MAY be disconcertion, not that it IS disconcertion.

I agree. I still THINK that it IS disconcertion usually however. They quit or they get called. Jmo.

IMO, that action alone is usually NOT sufficent to disconcert.