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mtbabo Sun Nov 13, 2005 05:57pm

Please clarify the following.
What is the proper mechanic for stopping the clock when the ball goes out of bounds on your line? I have read that you have to put up your hand first to stop the clock and then point direction. I have also been told that we are not supposed to put our hand up and just point direction. I need some hard evidence to prove what is the correct way not what each official would like to do. Was it discussed at the NCAA clinics this year? If possible please quote references or links with references.
Thank you

N_Stripes Sun Nov 13, 2005 06:29pm

CCA Men's BB Officiating Manual, Section 14 Out of Bounds(Page 43 0f 2005-06)
"Three distinct and separate movements may be made for an out-of-bounds call...
Stop the clock, point the direction, then indicate the throw-in spot."

Straight from the book for you.

Kelvin green Sun Nov 13, 2005 07:06pm

Notice the key word MAY.

ChuckElias Sun Nov 13, 2005 07:29pm

We have actually been given conflicting instructions on this issue. The rulebook has an appendix showing all the approved signals. The rulebook tells us that the stop clock signal may be omitted on an OOB violation. (NCAA 2006 rulebook, Appendix VII, BR-176.) This is actually a change from 2 or 3 years ago, when the rulebook said that there was no stop clock signal for an OOB violation (2003 NCAA rulebook).

However, in the '04-'05 CCA Men's Basketball Officiating Manual (Men's Crew of Three), page 25 says:

Quote:

Non-standard signals are not to be used. All officials must use the standard signals listed in this manual when calling violations or fouls. Using unauthorized signals, like a "hit to the head," a tip signal on block [sic] shots, not stopping the clock before signaling direction or over-exaggerated blocking foul signals, are prohibited. (Emphasis mine)
So what do we follow? The rulebook or the manual? The answer is you follow what your supervisor tells you. At the 2 camps that I attended this year, both run by D1 men's assignors, the assignors have told me that they want to see the stop clock signal. I'm quite certain that other assignors don't care. But since I'm trying to impress those assignors, guess what I do?

M&M Guy Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:21pm

Just to throw in my two cents - in NCAA-W the mechanic is to just point the direction and not use the stop clock signal first.

ripcord51 Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:46pm

So in NFHS is it required to use the stop clock mechanic when a ball goes OOB? Or do you just blow whistle and signal direction?

M&M Guy Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:48pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ripcord51
So in NFHS is it required to use the stop clock mechanic when a ball goes OOB? Or do you just blow whistle and signal direction?
NFHS does require the stop clock signal before signaling direction.

ripcord51 Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:56pm

Why?

Snake~eyes Mon Nov 14, 2005 01:01am

Quote:

Originally posted by ripcord51
Why?
To signal to the timer to stop the clock.

IREFU2 Mon Nov 14, 2005 08:45am

Quote:

Originally posted by ripcord51
So in NFHS is it required to use the stop clock mechanic when a ball goes OOB? Or do you just blow whistle and signal direction?
the whistle and an open hand on the violation is the correct mechanic to stop the clock, then you point.

David B Mon Nov 14, 2005 09:00am

Quote:

Originally posted by ripcord51
Why?
Remember in NFHS and below you are dealing with amateur clock operators etc.,

In NCAA ball the clock operators are paid professionals who do it game after game after game.

So in NCAA games they know when to stop the clock, but in HS ball they need a little reminder.

Signals are an important part of officiating IMO and when you see an official with horrible signals it does reflect on the official to coaches and fans.

thanks
David

ChuckElias Mon Nov 14, 2005 09:11am

Quote:

Originally posted by Snake~eyes
Quote:

Originally posted by ripcord51
Why?
To signal to the timer to stop the clock.

"Brevity is the soul of wit" -- William Shakespeare (Hamlet; Act 2, Scene 2)

<font size = -4>Wow, two Shakespeare references already today and it's not even 9:30 am!</font>

ChuckElias Mon Nov 14, 2005 09:12am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
"Brevity is the soul of wit" -- William Shakespeare (Hamlet; Act 2, Scene 2)
"Now we sit through Shakespeare in order to recognize the quotations." -- Orson Welles

M&M Guy Mon Nov 14, 2005 09:36am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
"Brevity is the soul of wit" -- William Shakespeare (Hamlet; Act 2, Scene 2)
"Now we sit through Shakespeare in order to recognize the quotations." -- Orson Welles

"WTF?!" -- Dan_ref

Dan_ref Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:40am

Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
"Brevity is the soul of wit" -- William Shakespeare (Hamlet; Act 2, Scene 2)
"Now we sit through Shakespeare in order to recognize the quotations." -- Orson Welles

"WTF?!" -- Dan_ref

I was going to claim "shut up" but "wtf" works too.

btw, shut up.


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