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closely_guarded Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:20am

Would be curious to see some responses to how you'd handle the following situation:

At end of 1st quarter and with no prior incidents involving the Coach, as the 2 officials quickly meet at the center circle before going to their appropriate positions, the Coach is suddenly in the center circle with the officials. He is quite calm and wants to point out something he feels the other team is doing that he would like to have watched.

How would you handle and would you handle differently if the Coach paying us the visit is:

1) Head Coach
2) Asst. Coach

Thanks

Dan_ref Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:26am


Just start walking towards his bench, he'll follow you.

When you reach his bench end the conversation with "OK coach, I hear you."

Turn & walk away.

ThickSkin Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:27am

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Originally posted by closely_guarded
Would be curious to see some responses to how you'd handle the following situation:

At end of 1st quarter and with no prior incidents involving the Coach, as the 2 officials quickly meet at the center circle before going to their appropriate positions, the Coach is suddenly in the center circle with the officials. He is quite calm and wants to point out something he feels the other team is doing that he would like to have watched.

How would you handle and would you handle differently if the Coach paying us the visit is:

1) Head Coach
2) Asst. Coach

Thanks

With no prior incidents? I would walk the coach back over to the bench and instruct him while walking that if he needs to speak to us, he can communicate with us through his captain.

M&M Guy Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:40am

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Originally posted by ThickSkin
With no prior incidents? I would walk the coach back over to the bench and instruct him while walking that if he needs to speak to us, he can communicate with us through his captain.
I agree with you and Dan - walk him back to the bench, and perhaps mention the coach's box (if applicable).

I do not really agree with the comment about him needing to speak through his captain. At every level, from MS through college, coaches complain the most that referees do not answer their questions or communicate with them. That's why we have the table-side mechanic, so we are in position to answer a coach's questions if need be. Maybe that's why the coach was out there in the first place - he had been trying to get the official's attention and this was the only way they could do it. If a coach is asking questions in a calm way, I'll talk to them all day. If they start getting sarcastic and grumpy (like some members of this forum), I'll nod my head, tell them that's enough, walk away, give them the "stop sign", T, whatever is necessary. But don't tell a coach you're not going to talk to him - that will make him crabbier quicker.

truerookie Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:43am

I believe you should always listen. Than, reply I will watch it on both ends coach.

Nate1224hoops Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:56am

I think you hit the nail on the head THICKSKIN. Walk him back to the bench. Let him know that you will keep his notion in mind and that he should communicate through his captain.

Grail Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:56am

Be careful with the "I'll watch it on both ends" comments. I suggest, I'll watch for it" as a better answer. Mentioning "both ends" may be taken as a slap at the coach.

Listen, acknowledge, and move on. We don't need to say anything that might antagonize a coach or player. They know we're watching both ends. If we see the infraction they were complaining about, and it happens to be against their team, they have no basis to complain.

ChuckElias Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:57am

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
[ But don't tell a coach you're not going to talk to him
Unless it's an assistant. I don't talk to assistants, except to tell them that I won't talk to them. "Coach, have your head coach bring it to my attention. Thanks."

Jurassic Referee Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:33am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by M&M Guy
[ But don't tell a coach you're not going to talk to him
Unless it's an assistant. I don't talk to assistants, except to tell them that I won't talk to them. "Coach, have your head coach bring it to my attention. Thanks."

Did you forget the "puking on his shoes first" part?

It's in the manual someplace

rainmaker Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:35am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by M&M Guy
[ But don't tell a coach you're not going to talk to him
Unless it's an assistant. I don't talk to assistants, except to tell them that I won't talk to them. "Coach, have your head coach bring it to my attention. Thanks."

Did you forget the "puking on his shoes first" part?

It's in the manual someplace

It's right after the section about staring at his pants.

M&M Guy Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:36am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by M&M Guy
[ But don't tell a coach you're not going to talk to him
Unless it's an assistant. I don't talk to assistants, except to tell them that I won't talk to them. "Coach, have your head coach bring it to my attention. Thanks."

Did you forget the "puking on his shoes first" part?

It's in the manual someplace

It's true, it's true....

(I know he wouldn't lie.)

ditttoo Thu Oct 27, 2005 01:16pm

Dan_ref - very nice. It's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to argue with silence. Simply walk away and he will definitely follow. No need to tell him why along the way. Once off the floor, then you can say what you need to....clean and effective - very nice game management.

Snake~eyes Thu Oct 27, 2005 03:09pm

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Originally posted by ditttoo
Dan_ref - very nice. It's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to argue with silence. Simply walk away and he will definitely follow. No need to tell him why along the way. Once off the floor, then you can say what you need to....clean and effective - very nice game management.
There's no argument in the situation. Just let the coach know that you heard him (or atleast pretend). Most coaches just want to be heard. Here is a good example of this situation.

M&M Guy Thu Oct 27, 2005 03:33pm

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Originally posted by Nate1224hoops
I think you hit the nail on the head THICKSKIN. Walk him back to the bench. Let him know that you will keep his notion in mind and that he should communicate through his captain.
Not trying to pick on you, but why should the coach only communicate through the captain?

Mark Padgett Thu Oct 27, 2005 04:02pm

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Originally posted by chuck elias
Did you forget the "puking on his shoes first" part?
It's in the manual someplace

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Originally posted by rainmaker
It's right after the section about staring at his pants.

Don't forget to compliment him on his fishnets.


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