Fed Rule 4.3.2

[assignmentmaker]

"Alternating-possession control is established and the initial direction of the possession arrow is set towards the opponent's basket when . . . the ball is placed at the disposal of the free thrower after a common foul when the bonus free throw is in effect."

Just checking . . . this is would be the case were an overtime to start and a foul be committed after the tap but before control was established . . . yes?

Any other circumstance(s) to which this applies?

TIA

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by assignmentmaker
"Alternating-possession control is established and the initial direction of the possession arrow is set towards the opponent's basket when . . . the ball is placed at the disposal of the free thrower after a common foul when the bonus free throw is in effect."

Just checking . . . this is would be the case were an overtime to start and a foul be committed after the tap but before control was established . . . yes?

Any other circumstance(s) to which this applies?

TIA

Well, that's the case book play. I can't think of any other time there would be a common foul, the bonus is in effect, and the arrow hadn't been set other than an overtime period.

I suppose the same thing would happen if you had a pre-game dunk; you would set the arrow when the ball's at the disposal of the free throw shooter. But of course, that's not a common foul.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by M&M Guy
I suppose the same thing would happen if you had a pre-game dunk; you would set the arrow when the ball's at the disposal of the free throw shooter.

Well, you'd suppose wrong.

But of course, that's not a common foul.

And that's why you'd suppose wrong. (4-3-3b)

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Well, you'd suppose wrong.

And that's why you'd suppose wrong. (4-3-3b)

Also, the bonus isn't in effect.

If I had some ham, I'd have some ham and eggs, if I had some eggs.

[Nevadaref]

If both teams were assessed 10 simultaneous technical fouls for illegal shirts and shorts on their starters, the FTs would not be awarded, and the 1st Quarter would begin with a jump ball. If a common foul occurred during this jump, the rule you cited would apply.

The likelihood of this happening is directly related to whether or not I am working the game.

[elecref]

this is my first post but have ben visiting this site for a while and really do enjoy it. if we have a pre game dunk, would we not set the AP arrow when we place the ball at the disposal of the thrower instead of when the ball in at the disposal of the free thrower ---- rule 4.3.3b. or am i looking at this incorrectly?! thanks.

[ChuckElias]

elec, you're looking at it exactly correctly, per my rule citation above.

Welcome aboard! First post and you're right on the money. 1-for-1!

[M&M Guy]

Oops.

See what I get for trying to muse. elecref is right; the arrow is not set until the ball is at the disposal for the throw-in after the frew throw. I was just trying to think out loud of other possible times the AP would be established during a free throw. Maybe I've spent too much time thinking about cartoon characters... (By the way, I do not green eggs and ham. I do not like them, Sam I Am.)

Hey Chuck, remember, I got one right too! Remember back when we were talking about the...uh, then there was time...er...well, what about...

Oh, never mind.