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assignmentmaker Thu Sep 15, 2005 03:48pm

"Alternating-possession control is established and the initial direction of the possession arrow is set towards the opponent's basket when . . . the ball is placed at the disposal of the free thrower after a common foul when the bonus free throw is in effect."

Just checking . . . this is would be the case were an overtime to start and a foul be committed after the tap but before control was established . . . yes?

Any other circumstance(s) to which this applies?

TIA

M&M Guy Thu Sep 15, 2005 03:58pm

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Originally posted by assignmentmaker
"Alternating-possession control is established and the initial direction of the possession arrow is set towards the opponent's basket when . . . the ball is placed at the disposal of the free thrower after a common foul when the bonus free throw is in effect."

Just checking . . . this is would be the case were an overtime to start and a foul be committed after the tap but before control was established . . . yes?

Any other circumstance(s) to which this applies?

TIA

Well, that's the case book play. I can't think of any other time there would be a common foul, the bonus is in effect, and the arrow hadn't been set other than an overtime period.

I suppose the same thing would happen if you had a pre-game dunk; you would set the arrow when the ball's at the disposal of the free throw shooter. But of course, that's not a common foul.

ChuckElias Thu Sep 15, 2005 06:30pm

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
I suppose the same thing would happen if you had a pre-game dunk; you would set the arrow when the ball's at the disposal of the free throw shooter.
Well, you'd suppose wrong. :)

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But of course, that's not a common foul.
And that's why you'd suppose wrong. :D (4-3-3b)

rainmaker Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:34am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by M&M Guy
I suppose the same thing would happen if you had a pre-game dunk; you would set the arrow when the ball's at the disposal of the free throw shooter.
Well, you'd suppose wrong. :)

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But of course, that's not a common foul.
And that's why you'd suppose wrong. :D (4-3-3b)

Also, the bonus isn't in effect.

If I had some ham, I'd have some ham and eggs, if I had some eggs.

Nevadaref Fri Sep 16, 2005 01:43am

If both teams were assessed 10 simultaneous technical fouls for illegal shirts and shorts on their starters, the FTs would not be awarded, and the 1st Quarter would begin with a jump ball. If a common foul occurred during this jump, the rule you cited would apply.

The likelihood of this happening is directly related to whether or not I am working the game. :D

elecref Fri Sep 16, 2005 08:29am

this is my first post but have ben visiting this site for a while and really do enjoy it. if we have a pre game dunk, would we not set the AP arrow when we place the ball at the disposal of the thrower instead of when the ball in at the disposal of the free thrower ---- rule 4.3.3b. or am i looking at this incorrectly?! thanks.

ChuckElias Fri Sep 16, 2005 09:00am

elec, you're looking at it exactly correctly, per my rule citation above.

Welcome aboard! First post and you're right on the money. 1-for-1!

M&M Guy Fri Sep 16, 2005 09:56am

Oops.

See what I get for trying to muse. elecref is right; the arrow is not set until the ball is at the disposal for the throw-in after the frew throw. I was just trying to think out loud of other possible times the AP would be established during a free throw. Maybe I've spent too much time thinking about cartoon characters... (By the way, I do not green eggs and ham. I do not like them, Sam I Am.)

Hey Chuck, remember, I got one right too! Remember back when we were talking about the...uh, then there was time...er...well, what about...

Oh, never mind.


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