i have been reading this forum for few hours and found it really useful. Do you know any links for similiar forums where discussions are based on FIBA rules?

Thanks!

Guys - this is too easy. Which one of you is teasing me?

Mark, why did I know YOU would be the first to answer...

no idea lol, I want one myeself:P

Why would anyone want to discuss FEEBLE rules? :confused:

Maybe becus the second largest sport in europe is basketball, and insted of making things like the americans with diffrent sets in evry state, we have the same for an entire continent- that's why somebody would like to discuss it ;)

I wonder if other Americans, like say for instance Scott Corbin, complains about FIBA rules.

I mean, he's a premium NBA official and an Olympic basketball official. In terms of success, it's hard to beat that.

Nobody here comes remotely close to being in the same ballpark as Mr. Corbin.

Obviously, you aren't English or an English major.

All 50 states play high school basketball by NFHS rules.

All colleges, no matter what state they are in, play by NCAA rules.

I have no idea where you obtained you misinformation but you are misinformed.

BTW, it is an American game. :)

It is not a FEEBLE game.

[Edited by BktBallRef on Aug 28th, 2005 at 04:31 PM]

Apparently, the largest sport in Europe is surrendering.

Sorry - couldn't resist.

1. Alright, my bad, but you still use more rules set then we:P

2. Are we? I'm not so sure we are *thinks about making a forum for FIBA Rules* just for fun;) or to be able to discuss on your own terms, scince we don't have to and don't want to learn more sets of rules then the FIBA once, why should we really? I'm not learning a new set just becus I want to discuss here, it's enoug rules in my head as it is

Is there a translator in the house?

Why would officials from America want to know more about FIBA rules? Unless you are going to work a world tournament there is no need for FIBA rules to ever be discussed here or to FIBA rules to ever be used.

I am sure there is some FIBA forum on the internet somewhere. It is just not here right now. If there was a FIBA site here, there probably would be many threads without many responses.

Peace

JRut

I don't always agree with you, but in this case I do. There is not really a need for FIBA to be disscused here as most people don't use it or have an interest in it.

The only thing is Chrisgrassy was simply asking if anyone knew of ANOTHER forum like this one that dealt with FIBA. Not if FIBA should be discussed here or if FIBA is "feeble", just do you know of a place that talks about it SOMEWHERE else on the net.

For a first time poster to the site with a very appropriate question I don't understand the need for the put downs and insults. I mean Chrisgrassy even complimented this website in his/her post. JMO. I know it is the summer and things are slower, but I have been coming to this site for a few years and have found it useful and informative. But lately it seems to be jokes, pictures of squirles (etc), insults and not really about basketball.

Maybe others are enjoying it more than me, but I personally liked the posted that talked about rules and applications. I loved the links that tomgunn had to plays. I hope there is more of that.

In the end, JRut will tell me "you don't like it, don't read it." and maybe that will happen, but I am not sure that I am alone. If I am, thanks for listening and I will move on, but I will be sorry to lose this resource and the way it used to be.

And chrisgrassy, no I don't know of anothe webpage about FIBA.

To Chris or any others who want to discuss FIBA rules or ask specific questions as they pertain to FIBA, feel free to e-mail me. I officiate FIBA rules in Canada for high school games as well as NCAA rules for college games.

Jay

Great idea! Jay is the man! :)

I did not realize that that my responses were for you to agree with me.

It is funny that you went all around talking about how we did not answer the question, but yet you basically said the same thing everyone has said. If you have such a problem with how everyone answered the question, why did you say the same thing?

Peace

Ahhemmm....

Athens 2004:-

Puerto Rico 92, USA 73
Lithuania 94, USA 90
Argentina 89, USA 81

There's always the World championships next year....

My friend, I couldn't care less. No other basektball rivals the NBA, college basketball, or high school basketball in this country. I couldn't care less about FEEBLE games.

Why do you think all the best players in the world, outside the USA, come here to play basketball? Because in America is where the best basketball is played, it's where the best players are and it's an American game.

well don't care then :P

And yes a the NBA is the best- no question about it, but the euroleuge aint bad either, neither are some of the national european leuges-
so sure, you don't care, but there are a lot of people who do-
and even more who belive in a mutual exchange between the continents- just not saying "I don't care".
It's much more fun to co-exist and compare, not in a competetive way- but compare the rules, the pace- the development of game aspects related to cort size- players background:
e.g normaly a lot of people who come from a home with low income- usually plays a lot of street, wich tend to advance the dribble and fast breaks, how ever-
people with a "richer" background will probably play a lot in teams and pay a lot to have high trained coaches and such- then the game tends to be more "sofisticated",
a lot more of set up games, using of screens, less of the fancy dribbling-
I find this kind of comprising very intresting to look at, perhaps you should give it a try to- belive me,
it's much more fun then to turn your back at the continent wich holds a lot of the good basketball players and leuges

[Edited by crazy voyager on Sep 14th, 2005 at 07:54 AM]

None of that has anything to do with anything crazy. It was Tommyboy who brought up the Olympics and the "world" Championships. I simply said I couldn't care less.

BTW, do you know where American college players who cannot make the NBA go to play?

Europe. Euroleagues suck.

BTW, would you mind using a period at the end of a sentence from time to time? You're posts are terribly difficult to read because you write one, long, run-on sentnece. Thanks!

Here endeth the lesson.

Sir, you are woefully misinformed, suffering from serious dementia and are living in your own little mindless world if you think the "rest of the world" is better than the best of the best in the US. It is an American sport. And if you don't mind my saying it strikes me as the height of gall and arrogance to change the rules to suit the European style of play. As far as the World Championships, they don't prove a darn thing. The US team's high scorer plays in the NBA development league. What does that tell you?
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Huh? I think that you might be a l'il misinformed too. :)

The US team's high scorer in the last World Championship was Paul Pierce of the Celtics iirr. The last World Championship was held in Indianapolis in 2002. I watched most of the games on my dish. The NBA channel had them on. The US team had an all-NBA roster that included Pierce along with Jermaine O'Neil, Elton Brand, Reggie Miller, Ben Wallace, Michael Finlay,etc. That team went 6-3 and finished in 6th. place. The next World Championship isn't being held until next summer--2006. World championships are like the Olympics; they are held every four years.

If you were thinking about the recent tournament that the US played in South America, I believe that was a zone <b>qualifying</b> tournament to get <b>into</b> the World Championship. That US team was composed of non-NBA players from the NBDL and other leagues, I think. Correct if I'm wrong, but I think that's the scenario.

I've edited my post to make it easier to read.

oh does it indeed? Well why does it suck? it is becuse the lack of americans- r becuse of all the good euro players being in the NBA, I think it's the latter.

The NBA is the best (yeah i've already said that I know) but that's becuse it takes player from all over the world- look at it, Ginobili- he's not american, neither is; Nowitzki- Stojakavivic, Ilgauskas, Parker, Gasol, Kirilenko and more; a lot more players are european.

then there is a lot of good americans yes, but look at the NBA now- and compare it with how many foreign players it was 20 years ago- it's quite a diffrence.

And yes the euroleuge gets worse when all the besty go to NBA- but it doesn't suck, it's probably the second best leuge in the world.

And it's an american game- still, you can't win the olympics, or world championships- anymore :P

Me... misinformed.... nah! :)

Yes, JR, I was referring to the World Championships Qualifying berth recently played in the Dominican Republic. Kris Lang, an NBDL player was the high scorer in a loss to Venezuela. I should have been more precise. Our fourth place finish was good enough to accomplish our number one goal of qualifying for the 2006 FIBA Men's World Championship slated to be held August 19-September 3 2006 in Japan. As far as the all-NBA team you mentioned for 2002, it doesn't even come close to the best we could send, i.e., earlier dream teams.

C-R-A-Z-Y Voyager. With the emphasis on C-R-A-Z-Y!!!!

I say this everytime the subject is brought up. Basketball is an AMERICAN game invented by a CANADIAN.

The game is obviously still better in the US than anywhere else. But while young Americans are focusing on dunking and dribbling between the legs, kids in other countries are working shooting and passing. They're catching up real quick.

In 1972, Canada almost lost the hockey Summit Series to Russia. It was a wake up call to go back to the basics of skating and passing instead of focusing on the rough stuff. Last year's Olympic debacle for the US should perhaps be looked at that the same way instead of focusing on the fact that it was not the 12 best Americans that were on the team. It had Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson, these were not college guys playing against pros.

The 1992 Olympics in Barcelona set the stage for the upsurge in international basketball. The United States Dream Team (now THAT was a dream team) made a first-hand impression on youngsters in Europe and as more kids wanted to play basketball, more talent, 10 years later, started coming into the NBA.

There is no doubt that the national teams in the 2002 World Championships played a better brand of basketball. But when a group of guys with two weeks practice time is facing players who have competed together on the national team for years and years, you really can't compare the advantage non-US teams have. We just haven't had a strong national program because we have not had to.
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Last time I checked, Canada was still part of North AMERICA. ;)

this must be the first decent post I've seen in here, including my own :P

and yes I sometimes call myself a bit crazy (on the net anyway), it's like playing a role I can't take IRL but enjoy (get what I mean?), so yes I know :;P

I'm very happy to know that i'm not the only FIBA official here!


[Edited by ROMANO on Sep 27th, 2005 at 06:03 AM]

Gee I've missed you guys
 

Hey all - I'm back and I've missed you all :) Been pretty busy lately, but thought I'd check in.

As far as FIBA forums - haven't come across one yet, but feel free to email me if you have specific questions of check out my site (www.geocities.com/Oz_Referee) (shameless plug!)

And while we are on about non-American players in the NBA - who was the #1 draft pick in the NBA hmmm? I believe it was an Aussie :) Let's face it, while Americans may dominate the sport, the rest of the world is (has?) catching up.

As to why the rules for international games should be "changed" from NBA rules as someone here mention, lets keep in mind that FIBA, NBA, NCAA and NFHS rules have all evolved differently for a host of reasons - all with their pros and cons. It is grossly unfair for anyone here to say that "our rules are better than yours" especially when so many people here admit they have no knowledge of FIBA rules and have never officiated with them - who knows you just may like them (or at least parts of them)!!!

Phew....rant over now :)

While most of the members of this board are American, it is not exclusively American. Some of us are interested in FIBA rules. I for example am an American who sometimes refs using FIBA rules. If I have a FIBA question I specifically label the thread to say it only pertains to FIBA.