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ChuckElias Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:07pm

No Native American mascots in the postseason:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/3864772

Thoughts?

M&M Guy Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:18pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
No Native American mascots in the postseason:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/3864772

Thoughts?

That's going to be a big story around here in Champaign. Now, who gets to decide what's considered "hostile and abusive"?

And, aren't you quaking in your boots if you're waiting to play the University of Illinois Fightin' Raccoons?

Dan_ref Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:33pm

http://www2.ncaa.org/media_and_event...0803_exec.html

ChuckElias Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:34pm

Dan, I saw that article, but it didn't say that a decision has been reached. So I got the most recent one I could find. Interesting background, tho. Thanks for posting the link.

M&M Guy Fri Aug 05, 2005 01:21pm

Here's another article that does say Illinois and Florida State are on the list of "hostile and abusive" mascots.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/general/story/8706749

Mark Padgett Fri Aug 05, 2005 01:40pm

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Originally posted by M&M Guy

And, aren't you quaking in your boots if you're waiting to play the University of Illinois Fightin' Raccoons?

Can't be any more frightening than here in Oregon where you face Ducks and Beavers.

BTW - when is the NFL going to wisen up and change the name of the Washington team? That's the most offensive name in pro sports.

Jurassic Referee Fri Aug 05, 2005 01:40pm

Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
Here's another article that does say Illinois and Florida State are on the list of "hostile and abusive" mascots.


Hmmmmm.....

That doesn't sound too bad at all imo. I think maybe I'd like to be one of them when I grow up- "a hostile and abusive mascot".

M&M Guy Fri Aug 05, 2005 01:43pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
Here's another article that does say Illinois and Florida State are on the list of "hostile and abusive" mascots.


Hmmmmm.....

That doesn't sound too bad at all imo. I think maybe I'd like to be one of them when I grow up- "a hostile and abusive mascot".

What? You aren't already? (I meant hostile and abusive, not the grown up part...) :D

Jurassic Referee Fri Aug 05, 2005 02:18pm

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
Here's another article that does say Illinois and Florida State are on the list of "hostile and abusive" mascots.


Hmmmmm.....

That doesn't sound too bad at all imo. I think maybe I'd like to be one of them when I grow up- "a hostile and abusive mascot".

What? You aren't already? (I meant hostile and abusive, not the grown up part...) :D

I ain't <b>ever</b> gonna grow up.

Faith, trust and pixie dust........

imaref Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:01pm

It's About Time!
 
Bravo to the NCAA! Why did it take so long?


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rainmaker Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:33am

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
Here's another article that does say Illinois and Florida State are on the list of "hostile and abusive" mascots.
Why not just change their mascot name to the Florida Abusers and the Illinois Hostiles? It's not any worse than the Illini, or the Hoosiers or all the other meaningless mascots.

I still think the worst mascot in the world is the Tillamook Cheesemakers...

Nevadaref Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:44am

Now Chuck, do you care more about this mascot thing or the google search engine for the site being back up?


johnny1784 Sat Aug 06, 2005 01:56am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
Here's another article that does say Illinois and Florida State are on the list of "hostile and abusive" mascots.
Why not just change their mascot name to the Florida Abusers and the Illinois Hostiles? It's not any worse than the Illini, or the Hoosiers or all the other meaningless mascots.

I still think the worst mascot in the world is the Tillamook Cheesemakers...

The First Amendment; govern by freedom of speech and artistic expression. I do not see what is so racially, hostile and abusive about any college Mascot. Does it offend who and why? If everything that is offensive had to be changed, then why not start with the English language that degrades women with derogatory words? If I were any of those schools prohibited to use offending Mascots, I would sue the NCAA. Who determines what is offensive? The court of law, is this correct? What perception of a Mascot gives everyone a problem of being portrait as powerful from the history of Native American culture? Hey there could be those who are offended about the name of Bears or the fighting Irish Mascots, then ban the use of all Mascots. Change everything that is offensive, even if it is so cool and honors history. I think the NCAA is being overly sensitive and too politically correct in their latest decision.

JRutledge Sat Aug 06, 2005 02:19am

The problem I have with this ruling is every school is not equal. Florida State got their nickname after an actual tribe that not only gave their blessing, but they encouraged a lot of the chants and other things that are used in football games as an example. Illinois uses a mascot with no connection to a tribe or any real Native American culture. There is a big difference between the Seminoles and a team called the Indians or Redskins.

Just an opinion.

Peace

Back In The Saddle Sat Aug 06, 2005 03:17am

Let me just state for the record that I do not like the University of Utah. However, I think it is patently absurd and effusively self-righteous for the NCAA to attempt to ban the Utes' mascot. The school has the blessing of the Ute tribe to use their name, and by all accounts they, the tribe, consider it something of an honor to be represented by such a successful university.

This is just one more shining example of the supposedly enlightened thinking of the self-appointed elite intellectual class seeping from academia and the fringes of society into the mainstream via some respectable but misguided benefactor.

It is unsurprising that it's the governing body of college sports. This is just the latest example of the intellectual fallout from allowing our institutions of higher learning to be overrun by successive generations of liberal intellectuals far more concerned with instructing America's youth about what to think rather than how to think.

After all, we can't be trusted to think for ourselves, we might come to the wrong conclusions. :rolleyes:


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