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Snake~eyes Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:29am

Anyone ever eject someone before the toss, and/or any time has come off the clock?

Nevadaref Wed Jun 29, 2005 06:45am

2 seconds is pretty close
 
Nope. My personal record for a regular season high school game is 7:58 remaining in the first quarter.

However, I can envision two scenarios in which a pre-jumpball DQ would occur.

1. A T is issued for a pregame dunk. The kid then does it again or the coach/player takes such exception to the call that he gets tossed.

2. Unsporting conduct occurs during the pregame warmup. Could be a battle over the center circle, running through the other teams warmup drills, profanity exchanged between opposing players, or even a pregame fight breaking out. I've seen the last happen in football when the officials weren't even on the field yet.


tmp44 Wed Jun 29, 2005 07:22am

Re: 2 seconds is pretty close
 
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Nope. My personal record for a regular season high school game is 7:58 remaining in the first quarter.

However, I can envision two scenarios in which a pre-jumpball DQ would occur.

1. A T is issued for a pregame dunk. The kid then does it again or the coach/player takes such exception to the call that he gets tossed.

2. Unsporting conduct occurs during the pregame warmup. Could be a battle over the center circle, running through the other teams warmup drills, profanity exchanged between opposing players, or even a pregame fight breaking out. I've seen the last happen in football when the officials weren't even on the field yet.


2 seconds Nevada? Oh, do share.

And I thought my dad had a record--he got thrown 43 seconds into a JV game about 10 years ago. Now that I've become an official, he's mellowed out :D .

Mark Dexter Wed Jun 29, 2005 07:52am

Shockingly enough, I don't believe I ever have. I have done #1, though (one game, I gave 4 T's for pre-game dunking - 3 to team A, and then 1 to team B) and was shocked that the fallout didn't lead to any ejections.

bob jenkins Wed Jun 29, 2005 07:54am

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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Shockingly enough, I don't believe I ever have. I have done #1, though (one game, I gave 4 T's for pre-game dunking - 3 to team A, and then 1 to team B) and was shocked that the fallout didn't lead to any ejections.
One person should have been ejected after this.


lukealex Wed Jun 29, 2005 08:08am

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Shockingly enough, I don't believe I ever have. I have done #1, though (one game, I gave 4 T's for pre-game dunking - 3 to team A, and then 1 to team B) and was shocked that the fallout didn't lead to any ejections.
One person should have been ejected after this.

Would those 3 T's on Team A be indirect T's on the coach? If so, he would have been ejected.

If not, what constitutes an indirect T?

Mark Dexter Wed Jun 29, 2005 08:11am

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Shockingly enough, I don't believe I ever have. I have done #1, though (one game, I gave 4 T's for pre-game dunking - 3 to team A, and then 1 to team B) and was shocked that the fallout didn't lead to any ejections.
One person should have been ejected after this.


In a real game, yes.

Unfortunately, it was an intramural game, so there was no one who I could hold accountable. (If I were to eject the captain for this, I would have been killed - not to mention I'd never work again.)

Mark Dexter Wed Jun 29, 2005 08:11am

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Originally posted by lukealex
Quote:

Originally posted by bob jenkins
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Shockingly enough, I don't believe I ever have. I have done #1, though (one game, I gave 4 T's for pre-game dunking - 3 to team A, and then 1 to team B) and was shocked that the fallout didn't lead to any ejections.
One person should have been ejected after this.

Would those 3 T's on Team A be indirect T's on the coach? If so, he would have been ejected.

If not, what constitutes an indirect T?

You got it right, Luke.

tjones1 Wed Jun 29, 2005 04:03pm

Quickest for me is like 4 minutes into the first quarter. Two seconds is going to be really hard to beat!!!

Love this Game Wed Jun 29, 2005 08:18pm

Nevada did you really have two seconds.

That was awesome, I can not believe that.I have thrown a player out for throwing a punch two minutes in to the game.

But never two seconds.

brainbrian Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:07pm

Made me think of a funny way to possily get tossed. We use to do it in practice every now and then if we wanted to get back at somebody or not want our opponet to jump.

On the jump ball to start the game, when your opponet jumps for the ball you grab onto his shorts and pull them down. :D Quickest way I can think to get tossed "after the toss."


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