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BktBallRef Mon Jun 27, 2005 04:52pm

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You said it was a boys' game, and I told you to find a sister for a sub. Sorry, it was my own myopia that caused this mistake. I forget, sometimes, that boys even play basketball.
More like presbyopia. :)

Oooooooo. New word. Presbyopia. Hadda go put on my glasses and look that one up. When I did, I found that you just dumped all over ol' Juulie.

Good job!

Why? What's wrong with being a presby-terian?

Actucally, quite a few things but we won't get into that now.

Let's focus on the lack of accomodation that your eyes are currently experiencing. :)

Rick Durkee Mon Jun 27, 2005 05:03pm

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What is the rule in the injury scenario? Can we replace him with a DQ'd player, and face the consequences? Which are? (The other coach was suggesting that even if we could do it it would be a tech more often than when the DQ'd player committed a foul.) If we could replace him, who gets to choose whether D6 or D7 comes in?
You cannot replace a DQ'd player for an injured player. The official was right (as usual). You have to play 5 on 4 or until the officials feel that you cannot win the game any more.

Peace

Jeff,

I think I know what you probably meant, but I don't believe the referee should stop the game when one team has four players, regardless of the score. I think the referee only needs to determine whether a team still has a chance to win when that team has been reduced to one player.

Rick

brainbrian Mon Jun 27, 2005 05:20pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
You have to play 5 on 4 or until the officials feel that you cannot win the game any more.
The official can only stop the game when he feels the team can't win only when there's 1 player left. Not 4. ;)

I've also seen games where they just play with the disqualified player but the coach just says they forfeit the game anyway, and they just continue to be nice and have fun.

rainmaker Mon Jun 27, 2005 06:07pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by rainmaker
You said it was a boys' game, and I told you to find a sister for a sub. Sorry, it was my own myopia that caused this mistake. I forget, sometimes, that boys even play basketball.
More like presbyopia. :)

Oooooooo. New word. Presbyopia. Hadda go put on my glasses and look that one up. When I did, I found that you just dumped all over ol' Juulie.

Good job!

Why? What's wrong with being a presby-terian?

Actucally, quite a few things but we won't get into that now.

Let's focus on the lack of accomodation that your eyes are currently experiencing. :)

Yea, but it wasn't so my my eyes as my vision. It was for that one moment extremely limited! Only temporary, of course...

BktBallRef Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:38pm

"...my my eyes..."

What are "my my eyes?" :D

Better make that optometrist appt, Juules. :)

rainmaker Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:29am

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
"...my my eyes..."

What are "my my eyes?" :D

Better make that optometrist appt, Juules. :)

Actually a typing class would be more helpful, I think.

JRutledge Tue Jun 28, 2005 02:40am

Not exactly what I said.
 
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The official can only stop the game when he feels the team can't win only when there's 1 player left. Not 4. ;)

I've also seen games where they just play with the disqualified player but the coach just says they forfeit the game anyway, and they just continue to be nice and have fun.

I did not say the game could end with 4 players based on a Referee's decision. Actually the game could end if the coach does not want to continue, they would just have a forfeit the game at that point. The Referee at some point has the right to end the game if one player is left. The game can continue with one player only if the Referee believes the team has a chance to win the game. That was all I was saying. You read too much into what I said. I was not trying to quote the rule, just tried to explain if the game continues you have to play with 4 players (or 3 or 2) and there cannot be substitutions with disqualified players.

Casebook 3.1.1

Peace


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