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brainbrian Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:34am

Last night, a technical foul was assessed at halftime. The kid shoots his two free-throws to start the second half. Then how do we determine who gets the ball? (Assuming the above is the correct procedure.)

1. Team who shot the free-throws
2. Go to possession arrow like the normal start of the second half
3. None of the above

ChrisSportsFan Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:36am

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Originally posted by brainbrian
Last night, a technical foul was assessed at halftime. The kid shoots his two free-throws to start the second half. Then how do we determine who gets the ball? (Assuming the above is the correct procedure.)

1. Team who shot the free-throws
2. Go to possession arrow like the normal start of the second half
3. None of the above

Go with #3, turn off the lights and everybody goes home. :)

bob jenkins Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:43am

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Originally posted by brainbrian
Last night, a technical foul was assessed at halftime. The kid shoots his two free-throws to start the second half. Then how do we determine who gets the ball? (Assuming the above is the correct procedure.)

1. Team who shot the free-throws
2. Go to possession arrow like the normal start of the second half
3. None of the above

FED: #1 (the penalty for a T includes posession of the ball)

NCAA: #2 (after the T, resume at POI), assuming it wasn't a flagrant T or an intentional T (NCAAM only), or excessive TOs (NCAAW only)


M&M Guy Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:43am

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Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
Quote:

Originally posted by brainbrian
Last night, a technical foul was assessed at halftime. The kid shoots his two free-throws to start the second half. Then how do we determine who gets the ball? (Assuming the above is the correct procedure.)

1. Team who shot the free-throws
2. Go to possession arrow like the normal start of the second half
3. None of the above

Go with #3, turn off the lights and everybody goes home. :)

I like that idea, but I don't think it's one of the prescribed mechanics in the book.

Team A is assessed the T, team B shoots 2 free throws to start the half, and team B gets the ball at halfcourt. The arrow does not change, because there is no AP throw-in involved. Team B gets the ball because of the T penalty. So, if the arrow is pointing to B, they will also get the next AP throw-in as well.

M&M Guy Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:46am

And, of course, Bob beat me to it - that's for Fed. rules. In NCAA, with POI, you shoot the T, then go to the AP throw-in.

(Damn, I've got to learn how to type with more than one finger...)

brainbrian Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:08am

Thanks guys. I guess I should have specified I was talking about NFHS rules. Mighty quick also might I add.

The Technical was dished out for the coach yelling, "Go ahead and give me a technical, I don't care." After yelling about a bunch of bad calls. Isn't this just an automatic technical in your book or not?

ChrisSportsFan Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:16am

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Originally posted by brainbrian
Thanks guys. I guess I should have specified I was talking about NFHS rules. Mighty quick also might I add.

The Technical was dished out for the coach yelling, "Go ahead and give me a technical, I don't care." After yelling about a bunch of bad calls. Isn't this just an automatic technical in your book or not?

Are you admitting that they were bad calls or is that just his words? :)
Brian, you know you can't make bad calls when there could possibly be a Jr. High Scout in the building looking at those young-uns. I'm guessing they were youngsters if you working on a Wed night. Was this at TPF?

brainbrian Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:19pm

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Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
Are you admitting that they were bad calls or is that just his words? :)
Oh LOL, yeah, those were his words. I thought there was little wrong with my officiating that game.

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Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
Brian, you know you can't make bad calls when there could possibly be a Jr. High Scout in the building looking at those young-uns. I'm guessing they were youngsters if you working on a Wed night. Was this at TPF?
Yeah, it was at TPF. First game was HS JV Boys, I might have called it a bit tight the first 5 minutes still thinking I was in the HS V girls game from the night before, my partner said I was fine though. 1st half foul count was 7-0 at one point and 12-3 at the half, everyone really loved that, let me tell ya. :D The technical was in an 8G game.

But is a coach literally asking for a technical an automatic technical in your opinion?

drothamel Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:37pm

If he yells his demand for the tech, sure. I also like when they ask for the second one!

Snake~eyes Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:59pm

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
Quote:

Originally posted by brainbrian
Last night, a technical foul was assessed at halftime. The kid shoots his two free-throws to start the second half. Then how do we determine who gets the ball? (Assuming the above is the correct procedure.)

1. Team who shot the free-throws
2. Go to possession arrow like the normal start of the second half
3. None of the above

FED: #1 (the penalty for a T includes posession of the ball)

NCAA: #2 (after the T, resume at POI), assuming it wasn't a flagrant T or an intentional T (NCAAM only), or excessive TOs (NCAAW only)


excessive timeouts during halftime? That sure wouldn't be good... ;)

Mark Padgett Thu Jun 23, 2005 08:07pm

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Originally posted by brainbrian

The Technical was dished out for the coach yelling, "Go ahead and give me a technical, I don't care."

You and your partner should go up to him and have one of you say, "We assume you were talking to both of us", then each of you give him a T.

Buh-bye!

ace Thu Jun 23, 2005 08:56pm

Yeah, coach asks for it, DONT give him what he wants.... now if he's acting an absolute monkey and it goes beyond asking for a technical, then yeah, *WHACK* sit down... but if he justs asks for it, let him look like an idiot and embarass himself a little while longer, unless its directly affecting the play or causing the gym to become VERY unfriendly.



ChuckElias Thu Jun 23, 2005 09:52pm

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Originally posted by ace
Yeah, coach asks for it, DONT give him what he wants....
I've never been able to understand this idea. I guess I'm not smart enough to know if he wants it or if he's just out of his mind. If he asks for it, I give it to him.

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now if he's acting an absolute monkey
I thought he was acting like an absolute monkey. He just yelled, "Go ahead and give me the technical!"

Snake~eyes Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:00am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by ace
Yeah, coach asks for it, DONT give him what he wants....
I've never been able to understand this idea. I guess I'm not smart enough to know if he wants it or if he's just out of his mind. If he asks for it, I give it to him.

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now if he's acting an absolute monkey
I thought he was acting like an absolute monkey. He just yelled, "Go ahead and give me the technical!"

I agree with Chuck, I will always give the coach a technical foul if he wants it.

Nevadaref Fri Jun 24, 2005 04:38am

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Originally posted by brainbrian
... yelling about a bunch of bad calls.
= automatic technical

That is what you should understand.


ChrisSportsFan Fri Jun 24, 2005 08:02am

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[i]Originally posted by brainbrian [/i
But is a coach literally asking for a technical an automatic technical in your opinion? [/B]
Was this Matt? If so, he will push you just to see if you'll take care of business. If you won't then he'll keep going to see just how much he can get away with. He leads the city in T's and he doesn't care. He's actually a pretty good coach and he works ever angle. If he can work the ref angle, then he will. If you had to "pin him" during half-time, then your work with him is not done.


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