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egham3 Thu May 26, 2005 07:58pm

Hey there. I'm a new referee in the ATL area and originally from Baton Rouge, LA. Just wanted to say hello to all members. Already the info I've read throughout the posts has been very helpful. Hope all camps go well for everyone. Later.


Mark Padgett Thu May 26, 2005 08:10pm

Did you receive a copy of the rules of posting? Here are some of the more important ones:

1) no French
2) pictures of refs in fishnets are always welcome
3) there are certain questions that carry a $5 fine
4) Billy Packer is always wrong
5) I am always right

Welcome. Just follow the rules and you'll have a great time.

Oh yeah - be sure to ask which is more important - rules knowledge or court presence. Everyone likes that one.

Snake~eyes Thu May 26, 2005 09:02pm

Don't forget the taboo topics
1) Belts
2) Patent Leather
3) What to do when you incorrectly chop the clock when A1 throwing the ball in passes to A2(who is also out of bounds) after a made basket.
4) What to do when B6 comes off the bench and "goaltends" a game winning shot.

mplagrow Thu May 26, 2005 09:06pm

All punchlines must be preceeded by . . . .wait for it. . . .wait for it!

ChrisSportsFan Thu May 26, 2005 09:12pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Snake~eyes
Don't forget the taboo topics
1) Belts
2) Patent Leather
3) What to do when you incorrectly chop the clock when A1 throwing the ball in passes to A2(who is also out of bounds) after a made basket.
4) What to do when B6 comes off the bench and "goaltends" a game winning shot.

Hey egham3, what do they prefer to wear down in the land of Bobby Buchette, pleated and no belt, pleated with belt, no pleats and no belt or no pleats a belt?

Just kidding, don't answer it. I was thinking the same thing as Snake~Eyes.

tjones1 Thu May 26, 2005 09:48pm

And complaining about the OC's shipping costs is heard about every week!! ;)

(We skip a few weeks sometimes)

BktBallRef Thu May 26, 2005 10:47pm

If you're the new guy, why are you welcoming us? :confused:

tomegun Fri May 27, 2005 04:07am

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
If you're the new guy, why are you welcoming us? :confused:
I was thinking the same thing.

mikesears Fri May 27, 2005 06:38am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
Quote:

Originally posted by Snake~eyes
Don't forget the taboo topics
1) Belts
2) Patent Leather
3) What to do when you incorrectly chop the clock when A1 throwing the ball in passes to A2(who is also out of bounds) after a made basket.
4) What to do when B6 comes off the bench and "goaltends" a game winning shot.

Hey egham3, what do they prefer to wear down in the land of Bobby Buchette, pleated and no belt, pleated with belt, no pleats and no belt or no pleats a belt?

Just kidding, don't answer it. I was thinking the same thing as Snake~Eyes.

No belt and no pants. :D

theboys Fri May 27, 2005 06:42am

Make shoor: you're grammers good, or yule be racked over the coles, by the Grammer Poleece?

BktBallRef Fri May 27, 2005 07:02am

Quote:

Originally posted by theboys
Make shoor: you're grammers good, or yule be racked over the coles, by the Grammer Poleece?
Not to mention the Spelling police, eh boys? :)

M&M Guy Fri May 27, 2005 08:40am

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Quote:

Originally posted by theboys
Make shoor: you're grammers good, or yule be racked over the coles, by the Grammer Poleece?
Not to mention the Spelling police, eh boys? :)

Uh oh...hear those footsteps?

I hear Mr. Grammar Guy and Mr. Spelling Guy are coming! :D

egham3 - Welcome! Now are you a ref, new to Atlanta, or are you a new ref, also new to Atlanta?

ysong Fri May 27, 2005 09:35am

Quote:

Originally posted by tomegun
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
If you're the new guy, why are you welcoming us? :confused:
I was thinking the same thing.

I "claim" I know the answer to this question too:

Even though, in appearance, he is a new member to this forum, this forum, in fact, just gets to enter his personal life. So people in this forum are actually new members to his own world.

Is this correct? How am I doing in answering this question? :)

Thanks.



rainmaker Fri May 27, 2005 10:23am

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Did you receive a copy of the rules of posting? Here are some of the more important ones:

1) no French
2) pictures of refs in fishnets are always welcome
3) there are certain questions that carry a $5 fine
4) Billy Packer is always wrong
5) I am always right

Welcome. Just follow the rules and you'll have a great time.

Oh yeah - be sure to ask which is more important - rules knowledge or court presence. Everyone likes that one.

Mark -- you forgot the most important rule of all. Case plays that occur near the ends of close games and involve the clock starting or not starting incorrectly have to start with the clock at 3.6 sec, or 2.8 sec.

PGCougar Fri May 27, 2005 10:27am

And...
 
A hearty welcome from the coaches who post on this forum too! Oh, by the way, you really blew that call! No way that's a foul! Sheesh! ;)

(sneaks back to the bench in an effort to avoid getting T'd) :D

Mark Padgett Fri May 27, 2005 11:13am

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker

Mark -- you forgot the most important rule of all. Case plays that occur near the ends of close games and involve the clock starting or not starting incorrectly have to start with the clock at 3.6 sec, or 2.8 sec.

I thought the most important rule of all was never to correct me. :rolleyes:

M&M Guy Fri May 27, 2005 11:29am

Re: And...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PGCougar
A hearty welcome from the coaches who post on this forum too! Oh, by the way, you really blew that call! No way that's a foul! Sheesh! ;)

(sneaks back to the bench in an effort to avoid getting T'd) :D

Sigh...typical coach :rolleyes:

Although, admitting you have the problem is the first step towards recovery.

:D

rainmaker Fri May 27, 2005 11:59am

Re: Re: And...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
Quote:

Originally posted by PGCougar
A hearty welcome from the coaches who post on this forum too! Oh, by the way, you really blew that call! No way that's a foul! Sheesh! ;)

(sneaks back to the bench in an effort to avoid getting T'd) :D

Sigh...typical coach :rolleyes:

Although, admitting you have the problem is the first step towards recovery.

:D

You know, Mmm, the first step isn't admitting that the coach has a problem. He already knows that, but he thinks the problem is the ref! The first step is admitting that he himself IS the problem. I could try to think if a funny way to say that but it's almost too true to be funny. As long as the coach is blaming the ref, he doesn't have to face the truth. And kids learn that quickly, too. "If the refs would just start doing their job..." Yep, it really IS too true to be funny.

PGCougar Fri May 27, 2005 12:54pm

Whoa
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
Quote:

Originally posted by PGCougar
A hearty welcome from the coaches who post on this forum too! Oh, by the way, you really blew that call! No way that's a foul! Sheesh! ;)

(sneaks back to the bench in an effort to avoid getting T'd) :D

Sigh...typical coach :rolleyes:

Although, admitting you have the problem is the first step towards recovery.

:D

You know, Mmm, the first step isn't admitting that the coach has a problem. He already knows that, but he thinks the problem is the ref! The first step is admitting that he himself IS the problem. I could try to think if a funny way to say that but it's almost too true to be funny. As long as the coach is blaming the ref, he doesn't have to face the truth. And kids learn that quickly, too. "If the refs would just start doing their job..." Yep, it really IS too true to be funny.

Ouch! Rainmaker, you seem rather pensive today. I was only poking some fun. Sorry if I missed and poked a raw nerve. That wasn't my intent. :(

The only way to survive long-term in this game is to establish and maintain an even keel. Coaches are hardly immune from criticism and second-guessing. Look at the overly-vocal and overly-involved parents questioning every move and every possession and it isn't much easier to be a coach than an official. I don't want to get into a pissing contest about who's got it tougher. Yet most of us who are dedicated to the game we love carry on and block out the background din.

M&M Guy Fri May 27, 2005 01:35pm

Re: Re: Re: And...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
You know, Mmm, the first step isn't admitting that the coach has a problem. He already knows that, but he thinks the problem is the ref! The first step is admitting that he himself IS the problem. I could try to think if a funny way to say that but it's almost too true to be funny. As long as the coach is blaming the ref, he doesn't have to face the truth. And kids learn that quickly, too. "If the refs would just start doing their job..." Yep, it really IS too true to be funny.
I did take his comments, along with the smilies, as a small admission of his knowledge that coaches can be the problem. Couple that with the fact that he's on this forum and willing to find out information - I think that's a good first step or two on the way to recovery!

So, does someone need a weekend? ;)

rainmaker Fri May 27, 2005 01:41pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: And...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
You know, Mmm, the first step isn't admitting that the coach has a problem. He already knows that, but he thinks the problem is the ref! The first step is admitting that he himself IS the problem. I could try to think if a funny way to say that but it's almost too true to be funny. As long as the coach is blaming the ref, he doesn't have to face the truth. And kids learn that quickly, too. "If the refs would just start doing their job..." Yep, it really IS too true to be funny.
I did take his comments, along with the smilies, as a small admission of his knowledge that coaches can be the problem. Couple that with the fact that he's on this forum and willing to find out information - I think that's a good first step or two on the way to recovery!

So, does someone need a weekend? ;)

The coaches that check in here regularly are exempt from any criticism I hand out to coaches in general. And I didn't mean to sound emotional, or upset. But, hey, I'll take a weekend, if you're handing them out!

But seriously, I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.

ChrisSportsFan Fri May 27, 2005 01:54pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: And...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by M&M Guy
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
You know, Mmm, the first step isn't admitting that the coach has a problem. He already knows that, but he thinks the problem is the ref! The first step is admitting that he himself IS the problem. I could try to think if a funny way to say that but it's almost too true to be funny. As long as the coach is blaming the ref, he doesn't have to face the truth. And kids learn that quickly, too. "If the refs would just start doing their job..." Yep, it really IS too true to be funny.
I did take his comments, along with the smilies, as a small admission of his knowledge that coaches can be the problem. Couple that with the fact that he's on this forum and willing to find out information - I think that's a good first step or two on the way to recovery!

So, does someone need a weekend? ;)

The coaches that check in here regularly are exempt from any criticism I hand out to coaches in general. And I didn't mean to sound emotional, or upset. But, hey, I'll take a weekend, if you're handing them out!

But seriously, I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.

I had a spoiled kid last night who didn't commit any of the first 4 fouls we called on him (wink, laugh, yes he did, wink). He also didn't give me the stinky eye and then shove the opponent when he bumped into him, so the T I issued he also didn't deserve.

M&M Guy Fri May 27, 2005 01:58pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: And...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker

The coaches that check in here regularly are exempt from any criticism I hand out to coaches in general. And I didn't mean to sound emotional, or upset. But, hey, I'll take a weekend, if you're handing them out!

But seriously, I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.

No problem - consider me the weekend god.;) And, since you're being a good sport about it, go ahead and consider Monday a holiday as well...(and, while you're at it - hug a soldier).

I agree you might see more "spoiled" kids (and coaches) than you used to, but I guess I'm an optimist - I think the majority still have the right attitudes. It's just seems like hard work making sure the "virus" doesn't spread.

PGCougar Fri May 27, 2005 02:35pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: And...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
... But seriously, I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Socrates - Greek philosopher in Athens (469 BC - 399 BC)


Looks like things haven't changed much in about 2,400 years...

mick Fri May 27, 2005 02:53pm

spoiled
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
.... I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.
spoiled
adj 1: treated with excessive indulgence; "pampered from earliest childhood, he believed the world had been invented for his entertainment" [syn: coddled, pampered]
2: having the character or disposition harmed by pampering or oversolicitous attention; "a spoiled child" [syn: spoilt]



rainmaker Fri May 27, 2005 04:20pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: And...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PGCougar
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
... But seriously, I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Socrates - Greek philosopher in Athens (469 BC - 399 BC)


Looks like things haven't changed much in about 2,400 years...

Good quote. I mean, really. What can you do with a kid once she starts crossing her legs?!? It's all lost by then!


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