If you are an official in Ohio, please introduce yourself here.

Luther Palmer, Columbus

If you are an official what ? :confused:

Andy Larkins
Cincinnati

And a devoted fan of Cincinnati basketball-- slogan <i><b>"We'll enrol 'em, but we'll never graduate 'em!"</i></b>.

I see ol' HuggyBear's contract was up to be rolled over again, and the university said to him "Huggy, ol' buddy, don't let the door hit your a$$ on the way out". Probably sumthin' to do with his team being over the salary cap again.

Rumor is they're gonna bring in Jerry Tarkanian to replace Huggy. Add a l'il class to the program.

Heeheeheehee.......... :D

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JR - You're just one mean ol' fart! What have you got against HuggyBear?

I'll have to admit it was fun seeing his butt get pounded by IL on New Year's Eve. I don't think I saw him smile once (except for the occasional sarcastic smile at the refs...)

:D

Oh yea, by the way, I'm not from OH, but I have driven through there several times. Officially.

Hey Luther-
it's RRRick

Larksy, my annual baseball trip is Cleveland and Cincy this year. Maybe I'll run into you mid-August.

I'm not from Ohio either, but I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night........

Be careful if you really <b>do</b> run into him.......

This is Larksy in action:

http://www.sodamnfunny.com/Picture/People/ballerina.jpg

Be careful if you really <b>do</b> run into him....... [/B][/QUOTE]
Oh, so close, but I'm afraid that's not correct. No, we were looking for, "Then you'll have to back up and run into him again."

But thank you for playing. Tell him what he's won, Slappy!

Thank you Chuck...

It's the fabulous Home Version of the game, "Official's Forum"! Your family will spend hours of enjoyment heckling you as you make the call, right or wrong! Hillarity will ensue!

And, that's not all! You also win a case of Rice-A-Rony, the San Fransisco treat!

And now, back to you, Chuck...

That's Rice-A-Roni.

Rony lives in Georgia. :)

Not Ohio?

I think I need my dosage changed...

I've respected Huggins because he recruites kids that wouldn't have a chance at college under any other circumstances. Okay, so most of them don't graduate but you can only lead a horse to water, not make him drink it.

Oh you will be able to get any ticket you want down here...the Reds are not faring ver well.

Give me a heads up, I'm game for a cold frothy one somewhere nr. the stadium.

Larks

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
[B]And a devoted fan of Cincinnati basketball-- slogan <i><b>"We'll enrol 'em, but we'll never graduate 'em!"</i>.

I see ol' HuggyBear's contract was up to be rolled over again, and the university said to him "Huggy, ol' buddy, don't let the door hit your a$$ on the way out". Probably sumthin' to do with his team being over the salary cap again.

Rumor is they're gonna bring in Jerry Tarkanian to replace Huggy. Add a l'il class to the program.

Heeheeheehee.......... :D

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JR....you are a trouble maker.....Huggs is lovable and just misunderstood.....example...."DONT TAKE A GUN TO SCHOOL" Translation: "words words GUN words"

Hey Luther,

Jim Hammar - Columbus (COBOA and CWBOA)

Graduation issue......how about these facts: (You can rip on em for other reasons but on Grad rate is bogus)

Fact: 24 players who have completed their eligibility during Bob Huggins coaching tenure have graduated....

Fact: 8 of the last 13 seniors to complete their eligibility under Huggins have earned their degree.

Fact: Six years ago UC instituted the Recall Program, which encourages all student-athletes who leave to play professionally and did not complete their degree, to return to UC and finish, with assistance provided by UC.

Fact: UC had a graduation rate of 100-percent in the 2002 NCAA Division 1 grad rates.

Fact: During the 2001-02 academic year, UC men’s basketball won the CUSA Sports Academic Award for the league’s best GPA.

Fact: Leonard Stokes not only earned his degree, he earned it before taking the court for his senior season in 2002-03.

***Bearcat Graduates under Bob Huggins
Steve Sanders, BA Communications Art, ‘90
Benjamin Ward, BS Criminal Justice ‘92
Michael Reicheneker, BS Criminal Justice, ‘92
Andre Tate, BS Criminal Justice, ‘92
Keith Starks, BS Criminal Justice, ‘92
Anthony Buford, BA Economics, ‘92
Jeff Scott, BS Sociology, ‘93
Erik Martin, BS Criminal Justice, ‘93
Keith Gregor, BA Health Promotions, ‘96
Terry Nelson, BA Liberal Arts/Social Sciences, ‘98
Terrance Davis, BS Criminal Justice, ‘98
Jackson Julson, BA Communications, ‘99
Keith Legree, BS Criminal Justice, ‘99
Levertis Robinson, BS Criminology, ‘97
Rodrick Monroe, BS Criminal Justice, ‘97
Ryan Fletcher, BS Criminal Justice, ‘00
Donald Little, BS Liberal Arts.Social Sciences, ‘02
Rodney Crawford, BS Criminal Justice, ‘02
Leonard Stokes, BS Liberal Arts/Social Sciences, ‘02
Jimmy Hubbard, BS Criminal Justice, MA Labor and
Employee Relations, ‘03
Derek Hollman, BS Criminal Justice, ‘03
Rod Flowers, BS Liberal Arts/Social Sciences, ‘03
Taron Barker, BS Criminal Justice, ‘03
Field Williams, BS Criminal Justice, ‘04

And I believe soon to be added...Jason Maxiel.

Can we move on from this argument for once?

I'm sure I saw an ESPN report that claimed Huggins' grad rate was 0%. Not a single graduation in like 10 years or whatever. Are your graduation stats more recent, or am I thinking of the wrong program? :confused:

I read that one too. I shall now go surfing.

Surf away my friends....surf away. All this UC not graduating stuff is a urban legend.

Now when the dude punched the police horse....now THAT really did happen!

I surfed. That 0% only referred to a specific coupla years. His overall graduation rate doesn't seem to be that bad. Of course, you do have to factor in that some of his people graduated with majors like Underwater Polevaulting. :D

How come the Cincy prez wants Huggy gone so bad? She's trying to get rid of him. What's the scoop?

Here's one from ESPN's web site:

http://espn.go.com/ncb/s/2002/0228/1342915.html

Thats not exactly to the point actually.

Agree. I googled it. Huggin's overall graduation rate certainly is a helluva better than a lot of schools.

Only 24 players in 15 years? Isn't that kinda low?

8 of 13 seniors? That doesn't sound good at all.

How many times has he been to the Final Four since he's been there? I thinking it's exactly the same as the number of times he's been in rehab.

The problem with the graduation rates only include players that started at a school and got their degree. I do not know about this list, but it does not include transfers or players that do not graduate within the 5 year time frame (accounting for red shirts years I believe). Huggins like a lot of university basketball programs get transfers. So a player like Will Bynum out of Chicago went to Arizona and played his freshman year. Bynum later transferred to Georgia Tech and is on schedule to graduate. Now if and when Bynum does graduate it will not count toward either Arizona's or Georgia Tech's graduation rates.

Until the NCAA considers graduation rates of players that in different ways graduation rates are going to be a problem for many schools with the NCAA. Most of the schools in this country have graduation rates higher with their sports teams than the regular student population.

Peace

Troy Pope
Huber Heights (Dayton), Ohio

Lawrenceburg, Indiana

20 Minutes West Of Cincinnati

Why do you want us to stand up?

MTD, Sr.

Daryl Long
Jerry City, Ohio

My mentor in officiating football and basketball is Henry Zaborniak Jr. who is currently an Assistant Commissioner for the Ohio High School Athletic Association. He is also a member of the NASO Board or Directors and in 2001 received the NF Distiguished contributor Award. His frequent basketball officiating partner was Dan Ross (new Commissioner of OHSAA). I would ref the JV basket game and then stay and watch them ref the Varsity game. They also watched my games and critiqued my performance every game. To further my education, they asked me to critique their performance also after every game...a daunting task for me as a new official. Needless to say I learned a lot, both rules wise and game administration wise from them.

I succeeded Zaborniak as secretary of the Wood County football and basketball officials Associations and held the position for 18 years until moving for two years to Florida and returned to Ohio in 2003. During those same 18 years I evaluated NCAA Div 1 officials in the Mid-American Conference and also scouted prospective officials for the supervisor.

My goal is to continue in my mentor's footsteps.

My points in mentioning these facts are:

1: Importance of developing sound mechanics and rules knowledge early in your officiating career.
2: Importance of developing good game management skills.
3: Take game seriously no matter what the level.
4: Remember, your performance not only reflects on your character but also on your mentor.
5: Always have a goal to what you would next like to achieve in officiating.
6: Become a mentor. Teach a rule in a meeting, teach mechaninics, go to games and evaluate, etc.

I am happy that many of the students I have mentored are officiating at/above the level I attained. Mentors cannot be jealous that the student will surpass him.

Jim, you going to any camps this summer?

Daryl,

What is your email address? I'd like to get in contact with you. Or email me at [email protected]

If any of you are looking for a good camp to attend, Joe DeRosa has a nice college camp June 16-18 at Kent State.

http://www.bluestreakcamps.com/derosabasketball.txp

I've been to it before, and so have several others on this board.