Re: its good to know
 

Let's see you are in an area with what you have said has terrible play, so one could gather that it is not that big of an accomplishment to get a varsity schedule.

So does your resume give any credence to your philosophy?

So you pick and choose what to call.

You allow a coach to change how you call a game.

Every "train wreck" was because of something other than you.

And you'll take the heat from a coach, so we should all just love to work with you.

A universal concept in officiating is consistency. Just how can you be consistent when you keep adding factors to your decision?

I used to be 25 at one time. And I used to know as much as you. But a funny thing happened on my way to getting older - I found I didn't know as much as I thought I did.

I think it's safe to say there are times we've all passed on a call for one reason or another. The key to being good is knowing when to pass and when to make the call. One of the worst reasons for not making a call, however, is by stating you don't like the rule for whatever reason. It's not our job to pick and choose what rules we like and don't like. In almost all of your examples you have done the the kids a disservice by not enforcing the rules as written. In your OOB examples where a foot may by just in or out and you pass - you've screwed the other team out a possesion by not giving them the ball when they deserve it. When a player palms the ball to call out a play, and you pass, you've screwed the other team again because the first team got an unfair advantage by being able to do something against the rules AND call out a play. I would certainly call that an unfair advantage.

My guess is you are afraid to make the these calls, and justify your actions by saying it's a good thing to pass on these calls. Does it bother you when the coach asks you "Geez, how could make that call?" Well, how do you respond to the other coach who sees the foot on the line, sees you looking at it, and asks, "How do you NOT make that call?" Knowing WHEN to make or pass on a call is important, not just being able to pass on it.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox. Man, I'm grumpy when I haven't had my dinner yet.

Re: for example
 

I *could* possibly, by some weird, twisted, stretch of the imagination see passing on any of the other fouls/violations you listed. But ignore a clear OOB violation?

Heck, they don't even do that in the . . . wait for it . . . SEC.

im fresh out
 

of anythin else to type to get you guys into more of a frenzy --

Well, most of us had already figgered out that you were only a troll anyway. Kinda obvious you're not an official.

Re: Re: for example
 

You sure? ;)

Hey, Mark, JR, now that I've had dinner I'm a little calmer and willing to cut deecee some slack. He might not be a troll, just misinformed. I mean, I remember being told in my younger days not to call everything and be a Rule Book Ronnie (apologies to all named Ron). So maybe he's taken that advice to heart and it has morphed into its current state. Maybe we just need to help show him the error of his ways, and get him back on the right track. That is what this site is about - helping out the wayward sons (oops: and daughters) and bring them back into the fold?

troll
 

i might have turned some coaches and players green...but troll --

Re: troll
 

Don't forget a few members of this forum as well...;)

Re: for example
 

Well...I tell you what, if you let this go in any game that I am coaching and I guarantee that you would be T'ing up your second coach, and I would tell the AD and your assignor that I never wanted you back again. Enforce the rules you are supposed to enforce. I could care less if it benefits me or not, I cannot stand officials that pick and choose what rules to enforce.

And, if you ever told me "well I may be passing on this for them, but I am passing on this for your team" you'd better be ready to eject me because the next words out of my mouth would be what I thought of your officiating and it wouldn't be pleasant.

You talk about coaching, well I only have time to coach my kids how to play the game ACCORDING TO THE RULEBOOK. I don't have time to teach them how to play the game according to what every different official THINKS the rules should be.

Re: for example
 

Defense is putting yourself in the desired path of the opponent with the intent of forcing him to go a less desireable direction. Defense near the basket is no different. The shooter has the choice to pull up for a short jumper or otherwise changes directions. If they don't, call the PC foul. The defense took away their line and deserves the call.

Call it. Why reward an almost successful attempt at saving a bad pass. Making stuff up never helps us.
Remember that the team must only provide the scorer with the names. While it is the norm and is nice, there is no requirement that they actually be in the official book by the 10 minute mark. Otherwise, the scorer, if they want to be mean, could delay putting them in to force a T on the other team.
So? That is the proper procedure.
What else could you do about it? There is no penalty that could be issued. It's not a safety matter so just play the game.



[Edited by Camron Rust on May 19th, 2005 at 04:40 PM]

Re: for example
 

I know you have an ego and you are very conceited but you’re 25 years old, rated a #4 who has written some bizarre bb officiating thoughts. I would like to know, what state and association you are a member?

Maybe the NFHS should include posts from OFFICIALFORUM.COM for their 2005-6 'Simplified & Illustrated' books.

Troll.

The inmates have taken charge of the asylum.

Re: which begs the question
 

If we all ignore you will you go away?

i appologize
 

for antagonizing you guys -- it just seemed like something i could do to keep me busy when bored at work...

mission accomplished i would say -- but I do appologize for any hairs any of you have lost or that have gone grey on my behalf

have a great weekend --