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Ysong,
It is obvious to me that you keep belittling your own opinion for the impression of others. If you do not like the NBA, turn off the TV and do not go to games. I have lived in a city that has an NBA team for over 6 years now. I do not turn on the TV or attend games especially when tickets were not hard to get. I have attended one NBA game since I moved here and it was an officiating event with a discounted rate. I spent most of the time talking with my friend and could hardly tell you anything that happened in the game. I personally do not like the NBA like I used to. I do not watch the NBA like I used to. When I do watch the NBA, I see the officials calling the game as the way they are instructed by the league. I belong to two associations that that have current NBA officials as former members. I have heard two of the 3 current NBA officials from my area talk about officiating and some philosophies of the league. I have said many times that I do not watch a lot or like NCAA Women's basketball, but when I do I watch the officials and their procedures in action. I do monitor the trends, mechanics and philosophies of all levels of basketball because some of those things filter down to the college and HS levels. And looking at the last few years of mechanics and rules, it is obvious that what the NBA does change what we do at the lowest of levels. I surely do not come here and complain that what is not fair in the NBA when I do not call the game and I probably never will. What was called against MJ or not called against Shaq is not something I worry about. Peace |
JR, You made my point...
JR...
You do realize that you made my initial point. I said the NBA was the weaker sister, not necessarily becasue of bad referees, but because the league views "entertainment" over basketball. It does not "pay" to have the stars sit. Point two clearly would indicate that this is the real reason why more good, great officials don't jump. Ask any great college football official if they had the chance would they move to the NFL? Case closed! Ask any great college umpire if they got a call from MLB, would they go? Case closed. Now ask the great college referees if they got a call from the NBA if they would go? Money? Prestige? Placement at the bottom? What gives? Many good officials will say they are content doing a good D1 schedule, but I can't imagine them not wanting to work the best basketball league in the world. That is, if it is indeed perceived as the best, and clearly it is not. Maybe I'm over simplifiying it, but the NBA is reaping what it is sowing, and then crying about the lack of viewership while the NCAA eats the NBA for lunch. Then Stern gets all in a tizzy becasue someone treads on the "integrity" of the NBA game....give me a break! Integrity left the game a long time ago. goose |
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I do, however, agree with your point, Goose. I personally don't like the direction the NBA has taken, and I don't think that you can blame the officials for that direction. Style seems to have prevailed over substance imo. It's gonna be interesting though to see how far Stern does take this Van Gundy thing in the latest "Cuban whistle crisis". |
Re: JR, You made my point...
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For the record those referees with NCAA exp now working the NBA are as follows: Bennie Adams, Gary Benson, Matthew Boland, Tony Brothers, James Capers, Jim Clark, Derrick Collins, Sean Corbin, Dan Crawford, Mark Davis, Joe Derosa, Kevin Fehr, Nolan Fine, Joe Forte, Sott Foster, Luis Grillo, David Jones, Anthony Jordan, Jess Kersey, Courtney Kirkland, Eric Lewis, Ed Malloy, Ken Mauer, Rodney Mott, Tommy Nunez, Ron Olesiak, Violet Palmer, Olandis Poole, Blane Reichelt, LeRoy Richardson, Phil Robinson, Eddie F. Rush, Michael Smith, Bill Spooner, Derrick Stafford, Scott Wall, Tom Washington, Greg Willard, Leon Wood and Zach Zarba. Others come from fathers and brothers in the pro officiating business, Ron Garretson (His dad was a long time NBA official) Steve Javie (His dad worked 4 NFL Super Bowls), Joe Crawford (2 Brothers working MLB). These guys probably know something about officiating based on their pedigree. The balance just did not list it on their resume because it was so long ago (i.e. Dick Bavetta, Bennett Salvatore) This is speculation on my part but you get the drift. I was at a college camp last year and Joe Borja (sp?) was in attendance. Who do you think he was there to look at... the 16 year old players... no. He was there to scout the college officials and the up and coming talent. I think you are grasping at straws with this argument. Just because Burr is an outstanding college official doesn't mean he fits the NBA mold while others do... |
Fouls Per Game
Since we had this discussion before, I wanted to show more statistics.
2004-2005 NBA Fouls Per Game Jermane O'Neal is #4. Shaq is #10 and Yao Ming is #9 All the players in the top #10 with the highest foul totals per game were either forwards or centers. The highest ranked guard was Steve Francis at #12. You look down to the top 50 and you see more and more centers and forwards with the highest total. I am sure if someone did a study they would find similar totals over the years. You really do not see many fouls are called by the officials on the perimeter, but near the basket. Who is most likely to be near the basket and attempt to block shots? You got it, centers and forwards. Not 6'2" guards who are defending other guards. Peace |
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