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Back In The Saddle Tue Apr 19, 2005 01:12am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I'm not quite sure I understand your question. Since the genome project, science has discarded the concept of "race" entirely. There is only commonality of genetic markers. For instance, I am a white male. I have more in common genetically with a black male than I do with a white female.
Saying there is no "race" is as simplistic as saying that the races should stay separate. It just ain't that clear. Humans are one species and have more in common with each other than with other species, and the species are clearly demarcated genetically. Within the species there are sub groupings -- genetic and biological subgrouping-- but those sub groupings aren't always strongly delineated. Furthermore, as Dexter (not used in a derogatory sense!) points out, there are sociological and cultural factors that further add to the confusion. It's a knotty, complicated question, and to say "there is no such thing as race" is just too easy.

I'll get off my soap box now and let someone else climb on and rant for a while.

I'm glad you jumped in on this one. I was contemplating just exactly what words to use when I called bull****! You saved me the trouble.

Mr. Dexter, a famous old Swiss saying holds that: When the map and the terrain disagree, trust the terrain. When idealistic old codgers try to use scientific-sounding arguments to deny the existence of what clearly does exist, trust what exists.

Back In The Saddle Tue Apr 19, 2005 02:02am

Check out this site: http://www.bbsr.de/org/usa/org/nba_kader03-04.htm

canuckrefguy Tue Apr 19, 2005 02:06am

I like the picture of Steve Javie - looks like someone just gave him a wedgie :p


Jurassic Referee Tue Apr 19, 2005 05:37am

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
Check out this site: http://www.bbsr.de/org/usa/org/nba_kader03-04.htm
Mark Davis is from Chicago, North Carolina? :confused:

brianp134 Tue Apr 19, 2005 06:49am

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by JugglingReferee
This is near the dumbest thread. We all knew what he meant.
I bet ya $5 it will get dumber before too much longer.

I agree with you!

TriggerMN Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:36pm

It's notable to point out that one of the officials on the original list, before this topic went the way of OFF-topic, (as things seem to do way too often here) Olandis Poole, worked the 2004 NCAA national semifinal between UConn and Duke. I hadn't realized he had moved on to the NBA.

JRutledge Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:50pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
For instance, I am a white male. I have more in common genetically with a black male than I do with a white female.
I guess we all can believe what we would like.

Peace

Mark Dexter Wed Apr 20, 2005 02:45pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
For instance, I am a white male. I have more in common genetically with a black male than I do with a white female.
I guess we all can believe what we would like.

Peace

Scientifically, he's correct.

Dan_ref Wed Apr 20, 2005 02:48pm

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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
For instance, I am a white male. I have more in common genetically with a black male than I do with a white female.
I guess we all can believe what we would like.

Peace

Scientifically, he's correct.

Not so hasty.

Let's first find out if he uses the door marked "Men" or the door marked "Women".

Jurassic Referee Wed Apr 20, 2005 02:54pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Let's first find out if he uses the door marked "Men" or the door marked "Women". [/B][/QUOTE]"Women" is short for "woe-to-men".

Back In The Saddle Wed Apr 20, 2005 03:47pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
Check out this site: http://www.bbsr.de/org/usa/org/nba_kader03-04.htm
Mark Davis is from Chicago, North Carolina? :confused:

Yeah, Chicago, North Carolina is a suburb of New York City, North Carolina. Just north of Los Angeles, North Carolina :D

Victor74 Thu Apr 21, 2005 01:24am

Rodney Mott is black, not white as previously posted.

xxssmen Thu Apr 28, 2005 04:48am

Race
 
Since we are on the topic of race, why is it that all you see is white and black officials. Basketball is grown to be an international sports but yet the officiating is black and white only at least thats all I have seen.
I was told that most evaluator look for tall white or black athletic people to officiate, which is probably true since most black and white grew up playing the sports or have a better understanding of the game than those of Hispanic or Asian culture. I have talk to many Hispanic and Asian who try to officiate but was told that its very hard to officiate at a high level meaning High school Varsity and up because they are from a diferrent culture, and also they have heard fans who made comment about there ethnic background how they need to stick to soccer and other popular international sports and they don't have a clue about american sports, comments like that probably has hurt the minority in comming out to officiate but I also believed that most evaluator do judge people by their ethnic background also instead of by there ability.

JugglingReferee Thu Apr 28, 2005 05:48am

xxssmen,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_stop

xxssmen Thu Apr 28, 2005 06:30am

Excuse my Grammar but english is a second language to me and if its not up to ur level please do not mock it and send remark about it.
Seeing that your highly educated I see no reason why you have a problem with my thread, I know you understand what am saying and if you don't than am sorry but am sure many other officials here understand what am writing.


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