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Redhouse Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:15am

i am working some AAU games this weekend and some of the teams may be using a shot clock.

I have never worked a game with a clock before. I understand the basics of using a clock, such as reset when ball hits rim, change of possession. Is there anything else I need to know.

Thanks

mick Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:32am

Kicked ball --> reset
Jump ball and offense retains control --> no reset
Time out --> no reset
Injury --> no reset

Almost Always Right Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:11am

Tell the operator that is always better not to reset it than to reset it!
AAR

socalreff Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:50am

For a reset, just think in terms of 3 things and you'll be ok. Change of possession(steal, violation, foul on offense), fouls, and ball hitting the rim. That's it.

Redhouse Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:56am

socalref,

So on any foul the clock gets reset regardless of whether or not it is on the defense or offense

Dan_ref Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:03pm

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Originally posted by Redhouse
socalref,

So on any foul the clock gets reset regardless of whether or not it is on the defense or offense

If you're going by ncaa rules then you do not reset it after POI technical fouls (unless the ball is going to the other team of course).

mick Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:10pm

Resetting for Double fouls and simultaneous personal fouls also defer to the Possession arrow rule.

mick Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:17pm

Do not reset when ball hits the rim at the wrong basket. :)

zebraman Thu Apr 07, 2005 01:32pm

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Originally posted by mick

Jump ball and offense retains control --> no reset

Not true in high school rules in Washington State. Jump ball resets the shot clock regardless of whether defense gets control or offense retains control.

Shot clock rules can vary from state to state and level to level.

Z

mick Thu Apr 07, 2005 01:56pm

Quote:

Originally posted by zebraman
Quote:

Originally posted by mick

Jump ball and offense retains control --> no reset

Not true in high school rules in Washington State. Jump ball resets the shot clock regardless of whether defense gets control or offense retains control.

Shot clock rules can vary from state to state and level to level.

Z

Z,
That's fine with me. :)

I thought AAU ball was NCAA rules.
Maybe they are Washington State High School rules.
Dunno.

mick

26 Year Gap Thu Apr 07, 2005 05:15pm

AAU rules vary from tournament to tournament. They just try to get the games done in less than an hour to keep on schedule. I have kept the book for a lot of AAU games. The worst thing is when the other scorer is cheering or booing wildly and then disputes foul counts of the accurate scorer who pays attention to details like who the official is actually calling the foul on. :D

socalreff Thu Apr 07, 2005 09:41pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Redhouse
socalref,

So on any foul the clock gets reset regardless of whether or not it is on the defense or offense

Yes, every type of foul resets the shot clock in high school rules. If NCAA, a technical foul on the offense does not reset the shot clock.

brainbrian Thu Apr 07, 2005 09:44pm

Quote:

Originally posted by socalreff
If NCAA, a technical foul on the offense does not reset the shot clock.
I've never looked at an NCAA rule book, but wouldn't the defense get the ball on an offensive technical foul, thereby requiring the shot clock to be reset?

I must be missing something. :(

mick Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:33pm

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Originally posted by brainbrian
Quote:

Originally posted by socalreff
If NCAA, a technical foul on the offense does not reset the shot clock.
I've never looked at an NCAA rule book, but wouldn't the defense get the ball on an offensive technical foul, thereby requiring the shot clock to be reset?

I must be missing something. :(

Yeah brainbrian, it's a little different in college.

Indirect technicals and direct unsporting technicals are two free-throws and ball is thrown in at "point of interuption" (POI).
Double technicals, double flagrant technicals, double intentional technicals and simultaneous technicals also go to POI.
Flagrant personals and technicals, intentional technicals are two throws + Division line throw-in.

...Or something like that. ;)
mick

BOBBYMO Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:30am

Kicked ball --> reset
Jump ball and offense retains control --> no reset
Time out --> no reset
Injury --> no reset
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Mick-. its is not true 100% of the time that when a jump ball stays with the offence there is no reset!!!


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