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regs12 Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:46pm

Per NFHS Rules, after a flagrant personal foul where is ball inbounded?

ref18 Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:11am

At the spot OOB nearest to where the foul occured.

BktBallRef Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:17am

What is a flagrant fout? :)

canuckrefguy Mon Mar 14, 2005 01:36am

Can't find it in the dictionary....sounds French to me.

Must be a FIBA rule.

Padgett's the expert on those....


Snake~eyes Mon Mar 14, 2005 01:38am

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
What is a flagrant fout? :)
Forget the flagrant part, what's a fout?

just another ref Mon Mar 14, 2005 01:49am

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
What is a flagrant fout? :)

Without looking (honest) A flagrant foul is a personal or technical foul of a violent or savage nature which may or may not be intentional.

How'd I do?

Nevadaref Mon Mar 14, 2005 06:26am

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Originally posted by Snake~eyes
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
What is a flagrant fout? :)
Forget the flagrant part, what's a fout?

He played quarterback for the San Diego Chargers. If you'll give me an "s".

tjones1 Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:34am

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Originally posted by just another ref
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
What is a flagrant fout? :)

Without looking (honest) A flagrant foul is a personal or technical foul of a violent or savage nature which may or may not be intentional.

How'd I do?

Not too bad!! :)

Mark Padgett Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:46am

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Originally posted by canuckrefguy
Can't find it in the dictionary....sounds French to me.

Must be a FIBA rule.

Padgett's the expert on those....


"Fouting" is what the french do when they pass gas. Most of the time, it's flagrant and fragrant. Penalty is having to eat two plates of snails plus loss of possession (of the snails, after a few minutes). It's FEEBLE rule number MLXVII. :p

Hii Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:50am

ha
 
haha

QuebecRef87 Tue Mar 15, 2005 02:30pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
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Originally posted by canuckrefguy
Can't find it in the dictionary....sounds French to me.

Must be a FIBA rule.

Padgett's the expert on those....


"Fouting" is what the french do when they pass gas. Most of the time, it's flagrant and fragrant. Penalty is having to eat two plates of snails plus loss of possession (of the snails, after a few minutes). It's FEEBLE rule number MLXVII. :p

LOL!!!

Mark Padgett Tue Mar 15, 2005 03:19pm

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Originally posted by QuebecRef87
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
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Originally posted by canuckrefguy
Can't find it in the dictionary....sounds French to me.

Must be a FIBA rule.

Padgett's the expert on those....


"Fouting" is what the french do when they pass gas. Most of the time, it's flagrant and fragrant. Penalty is having to eat two plates of snails plus loss of possession (of the snails, after a few minutes). It's FEEBLE rule number MLXVII. :p

LOL!!!

Glad you liked it, QuebecRef. I'd make a longer comment but my Freedom Fries are ready to come out of the oven.

aussie_ref Thu Mar 17, 2005 02:18am

A flagrant foul is a flagrantly unsportsmanlike foul (disqualifying foul) the player will be disqualified and the opposing team shall be award two free throws and possesion at mid court.

Nevadaref Thu Mar 17, 2005 02:23am

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Originally posted by aussie_ref
A flagrant foul is a flagrantly unsportsmanlike foul (disqualifying foul) the player will be disqualified and the opposing team shall be award two free throws and possesion at mid court.
Maybe down under, but not under our rules. Padgett!!!!!!!!!! Shoo the FEEBLE ref away!!!!!!!!

aussie_ref Thu Mar 17, 2005 04:08am

I thoroughly no both sets of rules and belive both rules have there flaws but strongly belive fiba are better rules to follow.

Nevadaref Thu Mar 17, 2005 05:28am

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Originally posted by aussie_ref
I thoroughly no both sets of rules and belive both rules have there flaws but strongly belive fiba are better rules to follow.
Just curious if English is your first language?


QuebecRef87 Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:19pm

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by aussie_ref
A flagrant foul is a flagrantly unsportsmanlike foul (disqualifying foul) the player will be disqualified and the opposing team shall be award two free throws and possesion at mid court.
Maybe down under, but not under our rules. Padgett!!!!!!!!!! Shoo the FEEBLE ref away!!!!!!!!

I must agree that it's illogical to inbound the ball at midcourt after a intentional/flagrant foul during live ball. But since I don't know thoroughly every set of rules, let me ask you guys a question: What's so feeble about FIBA rules??

Back In The Saddle Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:38pm

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by aussie_ref
I thoroughly no both sets of rules and belive both rules have there flaws but strongly belive fiba are better rules to follow.
Just curious if English is your first language?


Nah, he speaks Aussie. But then, we speak American.

Dan_ref Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:55pm

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by aussie_ref
I thoroughly no both sets of rules and belive both rules have there flaws but strongly belive fiba are better rules to follow.
Just curious if English is your first language?


Nah, he speaks Aussie. But then, we speak American.

No, we speak 'Murcun.

Mark Padgett Thu Mar 17, 2005 01:38pm

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Originally posted by QuebecRef87
But since I don't know thoroughly every set of rules, let me ask you guys a question: What's so feeble about FIBA rules??
Don't get me started!!!

QuebecRef87 Thu Mar 17, 2005 06:07pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
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Originally posted by QuebecRef87
But since I don't know thoroughly every set of rules, let me ask you guys a question: What's so feeble about FIBA rules??
Don't get me started!!!

I'd love to!! :D But I'm serious. I don't want to read 3 whole rulebooks just to see the superiority of the American rule sets! ;) So can any of you point me out the main differences that make FIBA rules so worthless?

Thanks!

Mark Padgett Thu Mar 17, 2005 08:56pm

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Originally posted by QuebecRef87
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
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Originally posted by QuebecRef87
But since I don't know thoroughly every set of rules, let me ask you guys a question: What's so feeble about FIBA rules??
Don't get me started!!!

I'd love to!! :D But I'm serious. I don't want to read 3 whole rulebooks just to see the superiority of the American rule sets! ;) So can any of you point me out the main differences that make FIBA rules so worthless?

Thanks!

OK, here goes. It's not that their rules are worthless, it's much more philosophical than that. Basketball was invented by a Canadian working in the U.S. For many years, this was the only place it was even played. Then the Euros come along and establish a "world governing body" for what is really our sport. They think they know better than us what rules are best for the sport. To me, this would be like some U.S. organization claiming it was the world governing body for opera. I guess you could say it's a feeling of resentment.

When you add that nation of surrender monkeys over there to the mix, and understand that the initials in FIBA aren't even in English (the home language of the founding country - the U.S.), it's no wonder some of us feel the way we do about the situation.

Mostly, it's all in fun (really) and nothing malicious is intended. Actually the french (I'll start capitalizing it when they earn the right by finally winning a war) do make good pastry.

QuebecRef87 Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:17pm

OK!!! Now I understand!

So I see it's more hate than disagreement that you guys feel against FIBA! ;)

BTW, I didn't know that the number of wars won was a known criteria to capitalize or not the name of a population... :rolleyes:

Oh yes! Here's to really get you started. I took that quote from the FIBA website:
Quote:

OUR MISSION:
FIBA governs basketball worldwide, making the rules and keeping the sport in line.
We make sure basketball is challenging, exciting and fascinating for everyone – everywhere. FIBA is basketball.

Go ahead! You got an open shot!! :D

Mark Padgett Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:50pm

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Originally posted by QuebecRef87
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OUR MISSION:
FIBA governs basketball worldwide, making the rules and keeping the sport in line.
We make sure basketball is challenging, exciting and fascinating for everyone – everywhere. FIBA is basketball.

Go ahead! You got an open shot!! :D

Just another reinforcement that FIBA stands for Foreign Idiots, Buttheads and A$$holes. :)

And yes, capitalization is totally dependent upon success in war. Didn't you know that? It's in the Geneva Convention. ;)

M&M Guy Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:11am

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
And yes, capitalization is totally dependent upon success in war. Didn't you know that? It's in the Geneva Convention. ;)
Hmm...when was the last time Geneva won a war? Shouldn't it be the geneva convention? ;)

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:48am

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
And yes, capitalization is totally dependent upon success in war. Didn't you know that? It's in the Geneva Convention. ;)
Hmm...when was the last time Geneva won a war? Shouldn't it be the geneva convention? ;)

I was referring to Geneva, Illinois. ;)

Dan_ref Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:59am

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
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Originally posted by M&M Guy
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
And yes, capitalization is totally dependent upon success in war. Didn't you know that? It's in the Geneva Convention. ;)
Hmm...when was the last time Geneva won a war? Shouldn't it be the geneva convention? ;)

I was referring to Geneva, Illinois. ;)

You mean the annual Aluminum Siding Manufacturers of America's Convention and Trade Show, held in Geneva Illinois every year?

M&M Guy Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:02pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett

I was referring to Geneva, Illinois. ;)

Oh, yea - the famous conflict between Geneva and Batavia! I thought Batavia came out on top? :p

(My wife grew up in Batavia; I'm just sticking up for her hometown.)

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 18, 2005 01:40pm

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Originally posted by M&M Guy
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett

I was referring to Geneva, Illinois. ;)

Oh, yea - the famous conflict between Geneva and Batavia! I thought Batavia came out on top? :p

(My wife grew up in Batavia; I'm just sticking up for her hometown.)

I lived in Aurora for a while back in 1969-70. That whole area is really picturesque.

QuebecRef87 Fri Mar 18, 2005 03:03pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
And yes, capitalization is totally dependent upon success in war. Didn't you know that? It's in the Geneva Convention. ;)
Damn, then I've been doing the same mistake for several years! We should write: <font size=48>U</font>nited <font size=48>S</font>tates of <font size=48>A</font>merica!! :rolleyes:

M&M Guy Fri Mar 18, 2005 03:21pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I lived in Aurora for a while back in 1969-70. That whole area is really picturesque.
You would be surprised to see it now. It's still has that small-town feel, but due to urban sprawl it is now a continuation of the Chicago suburbs. I grew up in Westchester, I remember as a kid driving out through the farmland to get to places like Santa's Village, and the Candlelight Dinner Theater. I think those places are still there, but the farmland isn't. It's just another suburb.

Now THAT'S flagrant!

Mark Padgett Fri Mar 18, 2005 05:06pm

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Originally posted by QuebecRef87
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
And yes, capitalization is totally dependent upon success in war. Didn't you know that? It's in the Geneva Convention. ;)
Damn, then I've been doing the same mistake for several years! We should write: <font size=48>U</font>nited <font size=48>S</font>tates of <font size=48>A</font>merica!! :rolleyes:

And damn proud of it!


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