nonstarter A1 wearing #4 has been playing for 5 minutes in the first half. There have been more than two deadballs and even a timeout since A1 entered the game.

The officials scorer informed us that there is no #4 for team A in the book, and that A1 is listed as #1.

what are the penalties, if any? NCAA rules reference please.

Indirect T. 2 Ft's, charged to coach, not charged to team or a player, resume play at POI.

10.3 & 10.4

DanRef-

Thanks for the response. I didn't see in 10-3 where is lists changing a players # as an Indirect. It's not adding a player (10-3.3), nor is it an illegal (10-3.10) or identical #(10-3.9).

We had this happen in a game, and concluded that once we beckoned the player on, and the ball became live, that it was too late. (is this a NFHS rule?)

Since 10-3 does not include this situation, we felt we were right. But then we looked at 3-3.2 and the adjacent A.R. 3 on BR-58. The question seems to pertain to the starters #s being incorrect.

I'm still confused and looking for a precise reference. Any thoughts?

As you say you have to include 3.3.2, which prohibits changing a number. AR 3 looks like your play, it's certainly not the intent to limit number changes to nonstarters only.

Under 10.3.2 (which references 3.3) we penalize when discovered.

[Edited by Dan_ref on Feb 23rd, 2005 at 10:17 AM]

This is an administrative T. Only charged to the team. No "book" related T's are ever charged to any individual (player or coach).

thanks everyone. I think we were confused with the "statute of limitations" that applies to players sub/entering the game illegally (i.e. not beckoned on). once live balls starts, no penalty when discovered.

Intent of the rule is a good rule of thumb.