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Lotto Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:32am

Here's something that happened this weekend. On the initial jump, three players tied up the ball---A1, B1 and B2. Clearly we have a new jump ball with A1 and one of B1 or B2. The question is, who decides?

(In the actual game, which was GJV, A1 was about 4'6", B1 was about 5'2", and B2 was about 5'10". The referee told A1 to jump against B1 so it wouldn't be completely absurd because of the difference in height.)

Just Curious Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:49am

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Originally posted by Lotto
Here's something that happened this weekend. On the initial jump, three players tied up the ball---A1, B1 and B2. Clearly we have a new jump ball with A1 and one of B1 or B2. The question is, who decides?

(In the actual game, which was GJV, A1 was about 4'6", B1 was about 5'2", and B2 was about 5'10". The referee told A1 to jump against B1 so it wouldn't be completely absurd because of the difference in height.)

I prefer the scizzors, rock, paper method.. Odd person out which could make it interesting to see B1 & B2 jump with Team A getting control!
Actually, if it was unclear as to whether it was B1 or B2 that gained the inital tie with A1, then the judgement call to go with B1 was good, IMO... Of course if B2 was the clear winner, then, as absurd as it may be, it going to be A1 & B2..
Then again, drawing straws wouldn't be a bad way to go either! :)

ChuckElias Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:56am

My question is: why was the 5'2" kid the initial jumper and not the 5'10" kid? :confused:

rainmaker Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:06pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Lotto
Here's something that happened this weekend. On the initial jump, three players tied up the ball---A1, B1 and B2. Clearly we have a new jump ball with A1 and one of B1 or B2. The question is, who decides?

(In the actual game, which was GJV, A1 was about 4'6", B1 was about 5'2", and B2 was about 5'10". The referee told A1 to jump against B1 so it wouldn't be completely absurd because of the difference in height.)

Is there any thing in the rule book or case book that forbids all three jumping?!? If it's not forbidden then I think you've got to let them all jump. Otherwise, you're "reading too much" into the case play! (smilie with childish grin)

JRutledge Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:07pm

Use common sense.
 
Pick two and move on.

Peace

Back In The Saddle Fri Feb 18, 2005 01:44pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by Lotto
Here's something that happened this weekend. On the initial jump, three players tied up the ball---A1, B1 and B2. Clearly we have a new jump ball with A1 and one of B1 or B2. The question is, who decides?

(In the actual game, which was GJV, A1 was about 4'6", B1 was about 5'2", and B2 was about 5'10". The referee told A1 to jump against B1 so it wouldn't be completely absurd because of the difference in height.)

Is there any thing in the rule book or case book that forbids all three jumping?!? If it's not forbidden then I think you've got to let them all jump. Otherwise, you're "reading too much" into the case play! (smilie with childish grin)

I think the spirit of the rule is to have an equal number of jumpers from each team. If you're going to let B have 2, then I think you have to let A have two as well. So ask A's coach (or captain, if you paid any attention to who that was in the pregame), which additional jumper they want. Of course they'll pick thier tallest player. I don't really think that was intended, so then you probably ought to let B have a chance to pick another player as well. But that leaves you with an odd number again. So back to A for an additional pick. In a six foot radius cirle, I think you could comfortably get all ten players inside. Just remind them that it has to hit the floor, backboard or basket before anybody touches it a third time or grabs it. For added variety, "accidently" omit the floor. (very big childish, evil grin)

Larks Fri Feb 18, 2005 04:07pm

How about....

B1 & B2 jump....and whoever wins that tip, gets to jump A1

Actually...Rule 2.3 in this case? Pick the logical and chuck it up there.



[Edited by Larks on Feb 18th, 2005 at 04:09 PM]

Mark Dexter Fri Feb 18, 2005 04:38pm

I think this is where I start lobbying for a coin toss to start the game . . .


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