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TheMentor Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:46am

The alternating possession arrow showing team B basket, team A going to get the next possession.
A4 makes the shot, the ball is in the air when 24 sec signal sounds then the ball lodges on the basket support.

1. Jump-ball situation
a. Team A gets the ball and have 0 sec.(We cannot reset the 24 sec clock in this case)
b. Team A gets the ball and have new 24 secs.

2. 24 sec violation
a. The 24 sec violation made before the ball lodges.
b. No one gained immediate and clear control of the ball.

PLEASE ANYONE !!!

brandan89 Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:50am

Im guessing this is NCAA?

Let me try to take a hit at this, so dont mark it.

1.) B

2.) It was in flight before it sounded.

Hope this helps, and hope it is right. :)

Smitty Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:57am

Not sure why this is an important question, but in my experience with a shot clock, the shot went up prior to the shot clock expiring and ultimately hit rim, so no shot clock violation. The ball gets stuck, so you have a jump ball. Possession arrow says it's A's ball with a fresh 24 seconds on the shot clock.

Redhouse Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:57am

Says you
 
What makes your question so important. Are you in the middle of a game right now and checking for a response on your blackberry?

TheMentor Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:10pm

Its importand because you cannot reset the 24 sec clock when you have a jump-ball situation. So you cannot give a new 24 secs to A team. And from the other the ball hits the rim so the 24 clock must be reset.
ITS A HOLE IN THE RULES !!!

blindzebra Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:17pm

Quote:

Originally posted by TheMentor
Its importand because you cannot reset the 24 sec clock when you have a jump-ball situation. So you cannot give a new 24 secs to A team. And from the other the ball hits the rim so the 24 clock must be reset.
ITS A HOLE IN THE RULES !!!

How is it a hole, the ball has to HIT the rim before it gets stuck doesn't it?

You have an action that resets the clock CAUSING a held ball.

Smitty Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:18pm

That's why we are the officials - to make sense of situations like this. Use common sense. The shot hit the rim, then the ball got stuck. Reset the clock. It's not worth having a coronary over. It's just common sense.

Dan_ref Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:21pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Smitty
That's why we are the officials - to make sense of situations like this. Use common sense. The shot hit the rim, then the ball got stuck. Reset the clock. It's not worth having a coronary over. It's just common sense.
Common sense? Here??

C'mon...

:)

Smitty Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:23pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Originally posted by Smitty
That's why we are the officials - to make sense of situations like this. Use common sense. The shot hit the rim, then the ball got stuck. Reset the clock. It's not worth having a coronary over. It's just common sense.
Common sense? Here??

C'mon...

:)

I can dream, can't I?

blindzebra Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:28pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Smitty
That's why we are the officials - to make sense of situations like this. Use common sense. The shot hit the rim, then the ball got stuck. Reset the clock. It's not worth having a coronary over. It's just common sense.
I just checked the NCAA rule and the attached case play is almost word for word the origional post and it says, SHALL BE RESET.

Also what level other than the NBA has a 24 second shot clock, and they DON'T HAVE an arrow.;)

ChuckElias Tue Feb 15, 2005 02:37pm

Quote:

Originally posted by blindzebra
Also what level other than the NBA has a 24 second shot clock, and they DON'T HAVE an arrow.;)
I would guess FIBA


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