I just wanted to start a thread to congratulate some forum members for their playoff assignments.

Nevadaref - Nevada State High School Tournament
Almost Always Right - Nevada State High School Tournament
Brianp134 - Maryland JUCO Playoffs

Knowing all of these guys personally I can also say they are good guys too!

playoff game
 

Tom, I'm waiting to see where your playoff games will be! I appreciate your kind words, my game is tonight at 7pm at Allegheny. I can't wait, and seems like the weather will not be bad for a trip thru the mountains.

Is there any advice that you would like to give me?

Congrats to NevadaRef & AlmostAlwaysRight for making the playoffs

Re: playoff game
 

Go out there and have fun. :)

Also Congrats to all of you.

Nevada Ref
 

Hi. I have been on this board this year and followed your posts with interest. I like the rules-even though I don't know them all yet. Was wondering if there is anyway I could get your playoff schedule. I live in Sacramento and get to Reno alot. I would like to meet you and see you at work. Mike

...me too! Send me a plane ticket and I'll be your biggest fan...at least during the games...blackjack will have to be fit in there somewhere! :D

Tomegun
 

That is awesome. Thank you very much.
I wish you were going to be with us in Vegas for state.
After 6 years of state in Reno(for me anyway), I am looking forward to the ridiculousness known as Las Vegas.
AAR

Congratulations!!
 

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Now are you guys talking about the State Finals? Or are you just talking about some lower playoff game. I am assuming you guys got what we call a State Finals Games. Which for us means the last 8 teams left standing in a particular class.

Sometimes our local terminology is different across the country. Just want to know what accomplishment you guys have actually achieved.

Peace

JRut, they will be doing games for the final 8 teams (boys & girls) in 4 classes (1A-4A). In the past years it has been in Reno and that is where I met them at (had the 3A boys final game with AAR and Nevadaref was on the clock). It is close to a guarantee that they will get the Final (very last game) in one of the classes along with their semis.

Another question Tomgun.
 

That is what I thought.

Now does your state play all the Boy's and Girl's games in the same weekend?

Each class here has their own weekend. For example

Class A Girl's--Feb. 25 & 26 (Bloomington--Girl's)
Class AA Girl's--March 4 & 5
Class A Boy's--March 11 & 12 (Peoria--Boy's)
Class AA Boy's--March 18 & 19

So officials that work a State Final or go deep into the playoffs in one class, it is very unlikely they would be able to do the same in another class. I have heard of states assigning both genders at State Tournaments. I just wanted to know if that is how they do it in your state.

Peace

JRut
 

Nevada's state semi-finals and finals take place from Thursday @ 2:00ish with the last final starting on Saturday @ 6:00ish.
Every class(1A-4A) has B&G semifinals and finals. It's kind of odd because we have the big school finals on Friday night(4A) and the rest of the finals are on Saturday throughout the day. It's always been that way and I am not sure why. It's Nevada, that's why. I mean we are having our frickin' state tournament in a casino, for cryin' out loud. I love it though.
State motto for Nevada - Whores and Poker, how can you go wrong?
AAR

Re: JRut
 

Well our state has two Super-Sectional Boy's Tournament games (the level that determines who goes to the Final 8 or State Finals Tournament) at the United Center in Chicago where the Bulls play. For some reason they have Liquor Ads on the electronic screen going around the stadium while these games are going on. Of course they cannot sell liquor at these games. But when the Big Ten Men's Tournament is going on in the same building about a week later, you cannot find any signs of liquor ads in the arena. Now at the Big Ten Tournament they do sell liquor in a bar in the stadium, but you cannot leave this small area with your drink. So you cannot walk around the concourse at all with any alcoholic beverage at any time during the Big Ten event. I just find it funny that it is OK to advertise to a bunch of kids that are in HS, but you cannot advertise to a bunch of adults in the same arena with mostly adults in attendance.

Funny how the world works I guess. :D

Peace

Rut, Your point about the beer and advertising at the Big Ten tourney is hilarious! Nevada is one of the only truly free states in the nation. We can smoke, drink, gamble, shoot shotguns, and otherwise do what we want, where we want.
It is an amazing state.

As for what it means to work games at our state tournament, here's the info:
It is the last FOUR teams standing in each class. When tomegun was here, it was the last eight for the 1A and 4A and last four in the 2A and 3A, but money cutbacks have changed that.
All four classes for both the boys and girls are contested the same weekend in the same city.
So there are four teams in the 1A girls, four in the 1A boys, four in the 2A girls, ...., up to the last four teams in the 4A boys.

If your association picks you to work state you work nothing less than a semi-final. Oh, and as AAR says you get to have a fun time in the casino between games!

I think working these games is a pretty big responsibility. I truly hope to be at my best.

PS My first round regional tonight was the #6 seed (8-8 in league) upsetting the #3 seed (10-6 in league) in the boys 3A class on the road. Great game with great partners. Never more than a six point lead until the last two free throws clinched it for the visitors.


AAR had a 67-66 game in the girls 4A. He always upstages me. :)

Is it a rarity to get playoff games in other states?

I've never worked less than two in a season, and usually more. Perhaps our system is setup differently here.

Similar situation
 

In NY, the coaches submit names of officials they would like to work their games. If the official submited for is in the top percentile, he's in.

Oh Yes, BBR...it is indeed rare here in eastern WA.

We've got guys in our association that have worked for 15 plus years...and still have never received a playoff game.

We send in the top 20 rated officials in our association to the district office. From there, they are selected by AD's, coaches and the district staff. Those officials selected will then do our district and regional games...this year we had 12 officials selected to do district and regional playoff games.
Our association decides who has the privledge of going to the State Tournament. The Number One rated official gets the first choice of what classification he wants to work. The second rated official gets the next choice, and right on down the line, depending on how many assignments our association receives.

We started a "gentleman's rule" a few years ago...that after an official has worked 2 State Tournaments in a row...that official must "sit" one year. This affords an oportunity for an official that might not otherwise get a chance to work a State Tournament.

We usually only send a total of 4 officials to all the Boy's State Tournament classifications combined, and there are 5 classifications...so we don't even get to have our association represented in one of the classifications...therefore, around here, it is indeed a privledge and an honor to have a State Tournament assignment.

Congratulations All and Good Luck!

Rookiedude,

You got someone going to the Girls B this year.......I choose that one over the 3A and A tourney's 'cause I heard it was a blast to work.......

When you are assigned a playoff game here, you are assigned a Regional. Every team plays in the playoffs here so there can be 6 to 8 teams in each Regional. In Class A (small schools) there are more teams. In the Class A Regionals they assign two crews. One of the crews will work the championship. The other crew will probably work one of the semifinals. Usually each crew will at the very least work two games. Now there are times there might be conflicts, so a particular official might work one game if for some reason they cannot work another day.

In Class AA (big schools) there are not as many teams. The last few years they have assigned one crew for the entire Regional. I worked 4 games in my regional last year. I also had one more team than most. But everyone assigned (unless some kind of conflict) had a least 3 games.

Officials that work a Sectional (all regional champions) will work at least one game. They will get two games if they work the Championship of the Sectional. There are two crews assigned to work the 3 games.

The Super-Sectional is just one game and the level that determines who advances to the State Finals in Bloomington (Girl's) or Peoria.

State Final officials that get to that level will work 2 games no matter what. They assign 4 crews (12 officials). Everyone works on Friday which is the first day and the quarterfinal round. On Saturday the officials work one game. They will either work one of the semi-final games or they will work the 3rd place game or the Championship game.

Peace

In northern VA, we do sort of the same as what JRut mentioned. We have 3 classifications (A, AA, & AAA) and we play districts, regionals, then states.

Every team plays in district tourney with the losers being through for the year. All assignments are made by our scholastic assignor. I worked a AA girls district tourney last night and I have the clock on a AAA girls doubleheader tonight. I have another district game tomorrow, and another AAA girls doubleheader clock on Friday. District tourneys end on Friday. Regional tournaments start next Tuesday (2/22) and finish on 2/26. State quarter finals start on or about 1-2 March and all state finals take place at the Siegel Center in Richmond on 12 March. There will be A girls/boys, AA girls/boys and AAA girls/boys games on the 12th. We will have games at 11, 1, 3, 5, 7, & 9. I plan to be there for all 6 games.

My association sends the Virginia High School League (VHSL) a list of 10-12 (I think) officials for consideration for state level games. The VHSL makes the assignments - coaches have absolutely no input. I believe that we have to sit out a year after going 3 years. Our officials cannot officiate a quarter final/semi final state level game with teams from the 2 regions we cover. We have guys go to the beach area and officials from central VA or southwest VA come up and do quarter finals in our neck of the woods.

[Edited by dblref on Feb 16th, 2005 at 02:39 PM]

First, Congrats on the tourney assignment Ron.

Second, I'm not sure if the girl's association around here is sending anyone to the B this year. I just belong to the boy's association...we are separate associations, however an official may choose to have dual memberships if he/she wishes.

Third, You heard correctly. The B tournament is a blast! I did the boy's side, at the B, two years ago and the game management people really know how to put on a tournament. The Spokane Coliseum is a beautiful facility and the fans are real down to earth people. They love their basketball and usually the whole town turns out for the games. :)

Fourth, I was looking forward to meeting you at the 4A in Tacoma this year. (Also, looking forward to meeting Kevin...a poster on this forum) Do you know who will be doing the boy's side this year?

RookieDude,
I will be coming down on Thursday the 10th to the Tacoma Dome.......... Looking to watch some BBall as a spectator......You from the Spokane group? I'll look you up. I can't remember your "Real" name.......drop me an email.

Ron,
I sent you an e-mail. Looking forward to meeting you.
We might have went to a camp some years back in Seattle.
Feel free to e me anytime.