Team A is awarded the ball after a jumpball situation. Team A is throwing the ball in and the thrower steps on the inbouds line and is called for the violation. Does Team A lose the arrow? And, next question, if Team B then violates in the same fashion, what happens to the arrow? Our crew tonight tried to discuss this situation and wanted to ask you guys and gals!!

When Team A violates, they've used up their AP throw-in. The arrow is switched, and Team B gets the ball. Team B's throw-in IS NOT an AP throw-in, so in effect, they get the ball, and the arrow. Does that also answer your question baout Team B "then violating"?

Team A does lose the arrow for committing a violation on a throw-in awarded by the arrow.

If team B violates on the subsequent throw-in, A gets the ball, but the arrow stays with B. Will someone please confirm this - I don't have my books with me and it'd be nice to quote a reference.

[Edited by JugglingReferee on Feb 15th, 2005 at 01:01 AM]

The violation by Team A causes them to lose to Arrow. Hoever, if Team B violates on the very next throw in, nothing happens to the arrow, as far as I know because it's not considered an "AP Throw In" -- that ended with the violation by Team A.

For an NCAA Cite, See 6-3-2, 6-3-4, and AR8

[Edited by Stat-Man on Feb 14th, 2005 at 11:09 PM]

So if Team B violates, they keep the arrow and Team A gets the ball. Now, if there is a foul by Team A during the initial throw in after the jump ball, what happens to the arrow?

In NCAA amd NFHS, the rule is that a foul by either team during an AP throw in does not cause the throw-in team to lose the arrow.

(Of course, most of the time, the table switches the arrow and nobody knows any better, at least at away games I attend ;) ).

Did the thrower cross the line, or just step on it?