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rockyroad Thu Feb 10, 2005 01:10pm

I seem to remember a rule change either last year or beginning of this season, that said that a foul by the defense away from the ball while the shooter was "in the act" we still counted the basket...IOW: A3 pulls up to shoot a jumper. While in the air, but not released yet, B5 shoves A5...whistle, shot, shot goes, we count it and assess whatever penalty for B5's foul...

Am I remembering correctly? If so, where is it in the book? If not, then whatinthehell is wrong with my brain? (JR and Dan, you two can't answer that last question)

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 10, 2005 02:22pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
If not, then whatinthehell is wrong with my brain?
well, that sure is an easy one.

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/MiscBrainy.gif

Nobody home!!

lrpalmer3 Thu Feb 10, 2005 02:24pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
If not, then whatinthehell is wrong with my brain?
well, that sure is an easy one.

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/MiscBrainy.gif

Nobody home!!

Where is this person's eyes?

Camron Rust Thu Feb 10, 2005 02:32pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
I seem to remember a rule change either last year or beginning of this season, that said that a foul by the defense away from the ball while the shooter was "in the act" we still counted the basket...IOW: A3 pulls up to shoot a jumper. While in the air, but not released yet, B5 shoves A5...whistle, shot, shot goes, we count it and assess whatever penalty for B5's foul...

Am I remembering correctly? If so, where is it in the book? If not, then whatinthehell is wrong with my brain? (JR and Dan, you two can't answer that last question)

Well, you're remembering the correct rulling. However, it was not a rule change. It was a clarification that this was the rule all along.

<blockquote>It's rule 6-7 Exception 3
The ball does not become dead until the try or tap ends when... A foul is committed <B>by an opponent</B> of a player who has started a try or tap for goal (is in the act of shooting) before the foul occurred...</blockquote>

rockyroad Thu Feb 10, 2005 03:08pm

Thanks Camron...that's from the Fed book, correct?

And JR, I specifically forbade you from answering that part of my post...now you must be punished. As soon as I can think of something, I'll let you know what your penance will be...

Dan_ref Thu Feb 10, 2005 03:11pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
Thanks Camron...that's from the Fed book, correct?

And JR, I specifically forbade you from answering that part of my post...now you must be punished. As soon as I can think of something, I'll let you know what your penance will be...

Might I suggest...

http://www.simplyrandom.com/randompi...yrandom272.jpg

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 10, 2005 03:15pm

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Originally posted by lrpalmer3
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
If not, then whatinthehell is wrong with my brain?
well, that sure is an easy one.

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/MiscBrainy.gif

Nobody home!!

<font color = red>Where is this person's eyes?</font>

Hmmmmm.

A lot of coaches have been known to say the exact same thing about our Rocky.

rockyroad Thu Feb 10, 2005 03:19pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
Thanks Camron...that's from the Fed book, correct?

And JR, I specifically forbade you from answering that part of my post...now you must be punished. As soon as I can think of something, I'll let you know what your penance will be...

Might I suggest...

http://www.simplyrandom.com/randompi...yrandom272.jpg

OK, I have no idea what the picture is, since I'm at school and the district server doesn't let certain images thru...I'm sure it was a good one, tho...I was also thinking that a 5 game schedule with BushRef might be in order...hmmmm...

Jurassic Referee Thu Feb 10, 2005 03:37pm

Rocky, Rocky, Rocky, Rocky, Rocky......

Rocky.

There's an old Spanish saying- <i>"If you play with the bull, you'll get the horn"</i>.

Remember that! :D


rockyroad Thu Feb 10, 2005 04:06pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Rocky, Rocky, Rocky, Rocky, Rocky......

Rocky.

There's an old Spanish saying- <i>"If you play with the bull, you'll get the horn"</i>.

Remember that! :D


Uh-oh! I've awakened the slumbering giant...a quick apology should appease him.

I'm sorry JR...no one should have to ref with that guy, not even you! Please accapt my sincerest apology...

There, how's that?

Mark Dexter Thu Feb 10, 2005 06:07pm

For NFHS, it's also listed on the 2nd or 3rd page of the rulebook with the "Major Editorial Changes."


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